To trade or not, what would you do.........

[ZoMojave]

Sorry Bill, I just realized that that link didn't work. Anyway, it's at Deery Brothers in Iowa City.

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[ZoMojave]

NO OFFENSE to those who have the black hard top and love it, none at all, color is a PERSONAL choice, but for me and my wife, there are some Jeep colors that in our eyes, look best with all body color.
White is one I can do either way - I think white with the black accents looks sharp as heck, so do some of the other colors, but the snazzberry is just too dark a color to handle a black roof, and even the sales guy and the people at two dealerships have said now that they have seen the blue in all body color, they prefer that look.
Again, I'm not being negative about anyone's Gladiator - it's yours, it's up to you to love or not, your choices of color. Jeeps are vehicles - especially Wrangler and Gladiator, that frankly, can wear almost any color quite well. Not all can, Jeeps can.
But for us - first choice - Blue with all body color, next would be snazzberry, all body color, no black.
My wife is a quilter with a fantastic eye for color and since she supports this fool so often, even when she shouldn't, I have a lot of respect for her color choices.

I was REALLY on the fence about Snazzberry. Very, very, nice color and even better when that sunshine hits it.

Stayed conservative with white (like the 2020 Ram I traded) due to ease of maintenance when old man Winter comes calling here in NW Wisconsin.

 

[ZoMojave]

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[GEETCH]

Thank, will take a look. My wife LOVES this blue, I mean she LOVES it, but when I said "someone on the forum mentioned there may be a snazzberry in Omaha with the options I want" her response was a gasp and oooooo. LOL.
I want the thing pretty well loaded - gorilla glass, aux switches, leather, full-time/auto SelecTrac transfer case, LSD and full tow package is an absolute MUST.



I totally get what you and @Trauma PA are saying, totally. But when I look at what many of you have done - if I was you, I'd sit tight, too.
Maybe I'm underestimating what I've done on mine, but most things can be undone. Maybe not easily - it's not "fun" swapping springs, lower control arms, bumpers and winch, but I did the springs/shocks in less than a day and could undo the steel bumper and winch in less time than I installed it in.
I appreciate all comments so far, there's a lot of logic, and the range of what people have done is from minor easy stuff to massive changes (if I had a SC on mine.......... I'd sure not even be thinking about this)

The no issues, reliable bit is the only other thing popping up in the back of my mind now and then.
NO leaks, of any kind, not even water, no ping, no wander, steers fine, but then I think of the thousands of Gladiator owners who also have no issues at all.

More later as I read and re-read some of the other comments. Everyone has been logical, factual, and put some thinking into this and that's extremely helpful.
Tip for those who maybe aren't familiar with my medical condition - it makes it VERY VERY hard to make decisions.
People don't realize it because the brain normally does this process so very fast, but normally, when faced with choosing or deciding between say 10 things, without knowing it, your brain pairs things up and takes the results from that first pair, combines it with another of the ten and chooses between those to and so on.
I don't have that ability. Anything beyond 2 is not possible. There's no "working memory".
So comments here have helped a ton, in ways you'll never know.

That’s what it’s all about helping out, giving you information or opinions so that you can make your informed decision. The biggest thing for me to swap would be the supercharger, I’m thinking for me it’s a big fat no lol

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That’s what it’s all about helping out, giving you information or opinions so that you can make your informed decision. The biggest thing for me to swap would be the supercharger, I’m thinking for me it’s a big fat no lol

I would definitely love to drive one of these with a supercharger on it. I'd love to know, feel, experience, what the differences are, good and bad.
If someone said "I'll give you $20 grand but you MUST spend it on your Gladiator, or give it back", that would be on my list.

I don't think removing the SC and then going through all that again would even be a consideration.


Recap of must-haves (to save folks from reading a dozen pages):
LED package,
Selec-Trac full-time/auto t-case
leather,
Blue (or snazzberry) all body color hard top,
tow package,
LSD,
cold weather group,
tonneau cover (could be added later, simple install),
advanced safety group,
popular equipment package,
package 24G
Automatic (sorry, guys, I LOVE a manual, but for my purposes, auto wins)
3.6
slush mats,
aux switches (not a must have, I've gone over 2 years without, but while buying.......)
Gorilla glass (much lighter than standard glass, may up the payload by 20 pounds)
and of course, that 4 gallons of gas

The way to tell if it's got the equipment I am seeking is the MSRP, though, if it's under that 62K, something is missing.

That's the easiest way to tell - if I see one under 62, which is almost all Overlands on lots, it's lacking.

 

[ZoMojave]

I would definitely love to drive one of these with a supercharger on it. I'd love to know, feel, experience, what the differences are, good and bad.
If someone said "I'll give you $20 grand but you MUST spend it on your Gladiator, or give it back", that would be on my list.

I don't think removing the SC and then going through all that again would even be a consideration.


Recap of must-haves (to save folks from reading a dozen pages):
LED package,
Selec-Trac full-time/auto t-case
leather,
Blue (or snazzberry) all body color hard top,
tow package,
LSD,
cold weather group,
tonneau cover (could be added later, simple install),
advanced safety group,
popular equipment package,
package 24G
Automatic (sorry, guys, I LOVE a manual, but for my purposes, auto wins)
3.6
slush mats,
aux switches (not a must have, I've gone over 2 years without, but while buying.......)
Gorilla glass (much lighter than standard glass, may up the payload by 20 pounds)
and of course, that 4 gallons of gas

The way to tell if it's got the equipment I am seeking is the MSRP, though, if it's under that 62K, something is missing.

That's the easiest way to tell - if I see one under 62, which is almost all Overlands on lots, it's lacking.

Yup, with those options you are looking at an MSRP in the $62K range. Thought about a High Altitude? I would assume you have. The wide axles (but retains the 3.73 rear) and come with many of the items on your wish list as standard equipment. There may be some 2022 inventory out there.

Okay! Okay! Before everyone reading this thread yells "MALL CRAWLER" out loud, those beautiful granite Overland take-off 18" wheels are plentiful and would look great on the HA. As a bonus you can choose your tire brand, size and type. There is a market for the stock 20's and could fund a decent portion of it.

Now, calm down everyone! I didn't forget about those painted bumpers, door handles and mirrors! Some on this forum have passionate views pro or con, but have you seen the HA model with those painted bits in Hydro Blue or Snazzberry? Oh my. However, the real payoff could just be those quilted leather HA seats. Wow, my wife really liked those!

I did much research and pricing on the Overland and HA. I seriously considered ordering a loaded Overland but found that I could actually get more with a HA for a lesser MSRP and make those wheel/tire (and other) changes that I would anyway.

We were on the edge, but changed our minds after seeing and driving a JTM for the first time at a dealer. Liked the ride height, suspension, seats, steering wheel, hood and rear diff. Of course, had to leave some options off due to the cost of the Mojave in general.

My wife accepts the cloth seats!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yup, with those options you are looking at an MSRP in the $62K range. Thought about a High Altitude? I would assume you have. The wide axles (but retains the 3.73 rear) and come with many of the items on your wish list as standard equipment. There may be some 2022 inventory out there.

Okay! Okay! Before everyone reading this thread yells "MALL CRAWLER" out loud, those beautiful granite Overland take-off 18" wheels are plentiful and would look great on the HA. As a bonus you can choose your tire brand, size and type. There is a market for the stock 20's and could fund a decent portion of it.

Now, calm down everyone! I didn't forget about those painted bumpers, door handles and mirrors! Some on this forum have passionate views pro or con, but have you seen the HA model with those painted bits in Hydro Blue or Snazzberry? Oh my. However, the real payoff could just be those quilted leather HA seats. Wow, my wife really liked those!

I did much research and pricing on the Overland and HA. I seriously considered ordering a loaded Overland but found that I could actually get more with a HA for a lesser MSRP and make those wheel/tire (and other) changes that I would anyway.

We were on the edge, but changed our minds after seeing and driving a JTM for the first time at a dealer. Liked the ride height, suspension, seats, steering wheel, hood and rear diff. Of course, had to leave some options off due to the cost of the Mojave in general.

My wife accepts the cloth seats!

Since my wife switched to cloth seats in her Jeeps, and my Chevy had leather, and this has leather, she instantly says "we want leather" as soon as they start talking interior. I don't blame her. I'm hooked.
I looked at HA but one loaded like I want is actually a lot more because the extra charge for the wide axles and painted stuff add thousands to the price. In fact, when I was searching, I'd see these advertised as "Overland" and the price was right around 62 and when I looked at the details, it was lacking all of those packages, but was expensive because it was an HA. Just that bit adds a lot to these. The front bumper would of course come off, I want a steel rear bumper, I love my Overland wheels - I've had Rubicon wheels on this truck and nope, went back and bought tires for my Overland rims. I really like them. And frankly, I've had no issues getting 18" tires and the prices have been right in line with other sizes - at least around here. |
I'm afraid my list of options on a HA would make that MSRP jump up to 64 or 65 just due to the fancy trim and paint and wide axles. (otherwise I'd go for the wide axles, better towing by a little bit)

 

[ZoMojave]

Since my wife switched to cloth seats in her Jeeps, and my Chevy had leather, and this has leather, she instantly says "we want leather" as soon as they start talking interior. I don't blame her. I'm hooked.
I looked at HA but one loaded like I want is actually a lot more because the extra charge for the wide axles and painted stuff add thousands to the price. In fact, when I was searching, I'd see these advertised as "Overland" and the price was right around 62 and when I looked at the details, it was lacking all of those packages, but was expensive because it was an HA. Just that bit adds a lot to these. The front bumper would of course come off, I want a steel rear bumper, I love my Overland wheels - I've had Rubicon wheels on this truck and nope, went back and bought tires for my Overland rims. I really like them. And frankly, I've had no issues getting 18" tires and the prices have been right in line with other sizes - at least around here. |
I'm afraid my list of options on a HA would make that MSRP jump up to 64 or 65 just due to the fancy trim and paint and wide axles. (otherwise I'd go for the wide axles, better towing by a little bit)

I completely understand. I did see this one approx. 175 miles from you. MSRP isn't too shocking.

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[ShadowsPapa]

I completely understand. I did see this one approx. 175 miles from you. MSRP isn't too shocking.

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There has to be a reason for the low MSRP on a HA. I wonder what it's missing............

EDIT - so far, found it's missing the aux switches. Some of the savings may be due to package combinations on the HA.
The light color interior won't cut it, though - those are almost a white when seen in person, wonder if they come in black instead of that steel gray.

 

[saintpauljeff]

There has to be a reason for the low MSRP on a HA. I wonder what it's missing............

EDIT - so far, found it's missing the aux switches. Some of the savings may be due to package combinations on the HA.
The light color interior won't cut it, though - those are almost a white when seen in person, wonder if they come in black instead of that steel gray.

Looks decent to me
https://www.jeep.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6HJTFG8NL128926

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Looks decent to me
https://www.jeep.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=1C6HJTFG8NL128926

Yes, but the almost white seats won't work for me - even others here have commented about them turning blue from sliding in and out and with me and my shop work and car stuff, they'd be black.
If that same truck could be had with black interior, the aux switches could be dealer installed and still be cheaper than a straight fully loaded Overland.
I'm going to hit the Jeep site and see if those seats come in any other color. We never buy light colored interiors, not with my work.
Otherwise, I clicked on their link to see the options and it's a very good match save for the switches which if dealer added would still be cheaper than 62,290.
I could switch my 5 wheels and tires over to something like that.

It's something to bring up tomorrow.

 

[Trauma PA]

There has to be a reason for the low MSRP on a HA. I wonder what it's missing............

EDIT - so far, found it's missing the aux switches. Some of the savings may be due to package combinations on the HA.
The light color interior won't cut it, though - those are almost a white when seen in person, wonder if they come in black instead of that steel gray.

Fun following along here. I get where you are coming from in this process. Like others have said, probably the smartest and best option for you is to order EXACTLY the options that you want. We as humans get so caught up sometimes in the moment that we want “it” now mentality prevails. Look at all these fools paying outrageous prices for a Bronco. Sure, if you can afford it I guess most can rationalize, “why not?” Not saying that is you at all. Just makes sense to me for you to order exactly every option you want. The wait will be worth it.

 

[ZoMojave]

There has to be a reason for the low MSRP on a HA. I wonder what it's missing............

EDIT - so far, found it's missing the aux switches. Some of the savings may be due to package combinations on the HA.
The light color interior won't cut it, though - those are almost a white when seen in person, wonder if they come in black instead of that steel gray.

Yeah, I didn't realize the gray leather until after I sent you the link. Yes, black is available which I would pick as well.

Mainly just an example of pricing.

 

[Trauma PA]

Yes, but the almost white seats won't work for me - even others here have commented about them turning blue from sliding in and out and with me and my shop work and car stuff, they'd be black.
If that same truck could be had with black interior, the aux switches could be dealer installed and still be cheaper than a straight fully loaded Overland.
I'm going to hit the Jeep site and see if those seats come in any other color. We never buy light colored interiors, not with my work.
Otherwise, I clicked on their link to see the options and it's a very good match save for the switches which if dealer added would still be cheaper than 62,290.
I could switch my 5 wheels and tires over to something like that.

It's something to bring up tomorrow.

You seem pretty handy. Instead of the dealer charging you an arm and a leg to install the Mopar aux switches, why not do it yourself and install the Voswitch JL300. Easy install, price is right, and you get 6 aux switches instead of 4. Food for thought.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

You seem pretty handy. Instead of the dealer charging you an arm and a leg to install the Mopar aux switches, why not do it yourself and install the Voswitch JL300. Easy install, price is right, and you get 6 aux switches instead of 4. Food for thought.

Factory installed gets you the wires under the dash...... not a huge deal, but..........
I only see a need for one, maybe 2 switches so number isn't a big deal. The ability to have 1 hot ign off and the other hot acc on is a bigger deal, that's the biggest thing against the 3rd party switches, they are either all one way or all the other.

I just built a HA online, I compared to the standard loaded Overland - all identical equipment except the HA painted handle, mirrors, lack of black bumper trim, painted bumpers, it looks like it's a cheap way to get the wide axles if you can handle the painted door handles and mirrors and bumpers. $200 difference between the two, all but a wash.

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