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From someone who's owned Acuras for 20 years, I understand the value of Japanese engineering. While my wife is usually the one driving the Acura (not always), I have owned many other brands. I realize there's a risk/reward ratio which each of the brands and often the greater the risk, the greater the reward.

My JT is my first Stellantis product and even 5 years ago, no way was I touching a Chrysler product. My first hint of a change was a few years ago on a business trip, I rented a Chrysler 300 and it had the 3.6L V6. I was impressed with the engine. It reminded me of the Honda/Acura 3.5L V6.

Fast forward a few years and I needed a truck - knowing it had the 3.6L V6 and quality ratings were improving under Stellantis - I decided to dive in and get the Gladiator. Now having owned my Gladiator for over 2 years, I'm never going back. No vehicle comes close to the enjoyment and "fun" I've experienced in my Jeep. A lot of this enjoyment comes from other people talking about and engaging me about my truck.

For the OP, the challenge that you're experiencing is that the risk/reward ratio is heavily skewed towards the risk side right now and it sounds like your vacation is/was affected. That's a tough pill to swallow when you're in the thick of it. It sounds like you were a huge fan of your Taco and you have more trust for the truck/brand. IMO, you might want to think about going back.
The 3.7L in the old MDX was a beast too. 300hp and naturally aspirated in an ‘07 model year tank of an SUV…fun stuff. The JT is the only vehicle I have liked owning more.

I also had the 2.3L turbo in a ‘09 RDX. Fun little thing, especially with SH-AWD.
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The 3.7L in the old MDX was a beast too. 300hp and naturally aspirated in an ‘07 model year tank of an SUV…fun stuff. The JT is the only vehicle I have liked owning more.

I also had the 2.3L turbo in a ‘09 RDX. Fun little thing, especially with SH-AWD.
I would love a mdx motor in these jeeps, but I have to say Jeep nailed it with the automatic transmission. This jeep has the best auto transmission of any car I've owned. I had a manual taco because the auto in those sucks sooo bad.
 

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For a Jeep JT 45K is entry level so it's on the cheaper side, I think the sport runs around that price.
My Rubi wasn't much more than that. But that was 2021. Prices have gone up, I know. I probably would not be in a JT if I were buying right now.
 

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my Rubi wasn't a whole.lot more than that. But that was 2021. Prices have gone way up.
My JTR is a 2021 & it was around 57k not even fully loaded. If you got a Rubicon JTR for 45k that sounds like a great deal or maybe missing the upgrades mine has? Fully loaded would have been well over 60k.
 

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My JTR is a 2021 & it was around 57k not even fully loaded. If you got a Rubicon JTR for 45k that sounds like a great deal or maybe missing the upgrades mine has? Fully loaded would have been well over 60k.
Manual (so $2k less right there), Cold Weather Package, LEDs, metal bumper, hard top, spray in liner, proximity locks, rubber mats, and nothing else. I don't have the 8.4 or the leather or the safety stuff. Also, $3500 dollar rebate back then when they couldn't move these things. Sticker was about $50k flat before the rebate. Only thing I wish I had is the advanced safety group. Base on a Rubi is still pretty nice. I think my price would be about the same as yours with Auto and without the rebate.
 

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The 3.7L in the old MDX was a beast too. 300hp and naturally aspirated in an ‘07 model year tank of an SUV…fun stuff. The JT is the only vehicle I have liked owning more.

I also had the 2.3L turbo in a ‘09 RDX. Fun little thing, especially with SH-AWD.
We owned a 2010 Acura ZDX Advance and it was a blast. The only vehicle we've gotten more "looks" in than the Gladiator. Burned oil like a mofo though. Crazy consumption from the 3.7L V6.

And my wife drives a 21 RDX A-Spec with the 2.0L Turbo. Sucker screams. Love driving that car. We're finding it's just a tad too small for us and our two boys, so we're looking to get back in the MDX camp again. Prices are crazy right now, so I may go low-mileage pre-owned.
 

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We owned a 2010 Acura ZDX Advance and it was a blast. The only vehicle we've gotten more "looks" in than the Gladiator. Burned oil like a mofo though. Crazy consumption from the 3.7L V6.

And my wife drives a 21 RDX A-Spec with the 2.0L Turbo. Sucker screams. Love driving that car. We're finding it's just a tad too small for us and our two boys, so we're looking to get back in the MDX camp again. Prices are crazy right now, so I may go low-mileage pre-owned.
Can’t go wrong with a used Acura in my opinion. I bought both of mine with over 100k miles. I had no issues with the RDX and the only problem with the MDX was the Bluetooth hands free calling module was draining the battery.

I put a combined 60k miles on those vehicles.
 

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I love my Jeep JTR but I may look into the new Electric Silverado.
To get a comparably equipped Silverado EV, you will need much deeper pockets. Close to the tune of 100K. Your wait could be 18-24 months for it as well.
 
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Did you see my Jeep? It’s value is in line with the new Electric Silverado.
we need to be careful with EVs. I had an experience today (had to drive my ev to 200 miles to trade it for my dad's truck because if you followed this thread you know)

he lives in Connecticut with lots of people around and while there was an ev fast charger I had to wait about 40 minutes before I could get on it and there were 2 people waiting in line after me (one was a beautiful rivian)

I love my EV and it has been amazing, but I would hesitate to make my truck my EV... having it be a commuter car seems like a better fit at this time.
 

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we need to be careful with EVs. I had an experience today (had to drive my ev to 200 miles to trade it for my dad's truck because if you followed this thread you know)

he lives in Connecticut with lots of people around and while there was an ev fast charger I had to wait about 40 minutes before I could get on it and there were 2 people waiting in line after me (one was a beautiful rivian)

I love my EV and it has been amazing, but I would hesitate to make my truck my EV... having it be a commuter car seems like a better fit at this time.
Had a 2013 chevy Volt which was an awesome vehicle went over a year without a visit to the gas station but what made it a more viable option was it had a gas onboard generator if it ran out of charge it would switch over which rarely happened. It got around 30 miles on a EV charge & 50 miles on a good day in the summer. I charged it overnight on 120v & it was my daily driver. The newer EV’s are getting 300+ of range but if I did a lot of traveling I’d probably lean towards a fueled vehicle.
 
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Had a 2013 chevy Volt which was an awesome vehicle went over a year without a visit to the gas station but what made it a more viable option was it had a gas onboard generator if it ran out of charge it would switch over which rarely happened. It got around 30 miles on a EV charge & 50 miles on a good day in the summer. I charged it overnight on 120v & it was my daily driver. The newer EV’s are getting 300+ of range but if I did a lot of traveling I’d probably lean towards a fueled vehicle.
I've wish they still made volts. it's better than my bolt for except you still had to get oil changes. I'm waiting for them to make the truck version and I think the 4xe jeeps will be it.
 

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Good thing it isn't a Toyota! Garbage, boring, slow, poor driving, brakes don't work, dealers are criminals! I owned one Toyota and I will NEVER buy another one!
 

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Jeeps are definitely not Toyotas...they are reliable, don't ride like log wagons and will last forever unlike toyotas which break down and are recalled constantly
If its any consolidation - a co-worker of mine has a '20 Taco - would burn about 3/4 of oil between oil changes... engine lost power and was smoking -he just got a new engine about a month or so ago. Toyota =/= infallible reliability. Those days are over. The days of the 5vz, 22R are way behind us. Toyota is making mistakes just like the rest of them. The U.S. Tacoma is NOT the Hilux they sell overseas with the stout 4.0 (1GR). If you can do without a bed the current 4runner is a solid option as its essentially a Hilux without a bed (unfortunately gets worse gas mileage than most V8 full size trucks but other than not having a bed that is the only downside I see). Most manufactures are churning out cheap plastic crap nowadays.
 
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If its any consolidation - a co-worker of mine has a '20 Taco - would burn about 3/4 of oil between oil changes... engine lost power and was smoking -he just got a new engine about a month or so ago. Toyota =/= infallible reliability. Those days are over. The days of the 5vz, 22R are way behind us. Toyota is making mistakes just like the rest of them. The U.S. Tacoma is NOT the Hilux they sell overseas with the stout 4.0 (1GR). If you can do without a bed the current 4runner is a solid option as its essentially a Hilux without a bed (unfortunately gets worse gas mileage than most V8 full size trucks but other than not having a bed that is the only downside I see). Most manufactures are churning out cheap plastic crap nowadays.
that does make sense, I guess I'm just nostalgic. and I 100% need a bed. I do still love the jeeps looks and convertiblity.
hopefully this service is the last of my gremlins and it will be smooth sailing for a 100k miles
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