Might be interested in that LJ.Dealership just called back that my order is in the system! Finally time to trade in the old 2004 LJ!
One of the TFL videos they contacted FCA and if I remember correctly, it was only 6000 lbs....Do we know how much it can tow yet?
While the max towing from the EcoDiesel (6,000 lbs) does not match the maximum available in a gas V6, Gladiator (7,650 lbs), consider that the diesel engine is much heavier than the gas engine. That, along with a power-train built partially for efficiency, the towing numbers make sense.“Before we introduced Gladiator, one of the most common questions consumers asked us was, ‘Will you please offer a Jeep truck?,’ followed closely by, ‘Will it be offered with a diesel engine?’ While we know the answer to the first question, I’m pleased to answer the second with a resounding, ‘Yes!’,” said Jim Morrison, Head of Jeep Brand – North America. “Gladiator’s combination of unmatched off-road capability and the vehicle’s fun-to-drive on-road performance, best-ever Gladiator fuel economy and incredible driving range underwrite the fact that our customers knew exactly what they were asking for.”
Yea per the order guide invoice cost is extra $3600 if already getting the auto transmission. Plus you get the anti spin Differential rear axle included ($536). So if you buy 6% under invoice that knocks it down another $216 to $3384 and $2848 if you were getting auto and anti-spin rear anyway. I plan to build out a Sport S with Popular Equipment and safety packages. Should run me around 42k less my other discounts. I wanted to be in that range of competing with the silverado RST diesel 4x4. I tow a 18’ skiff and really need the torque even though total weight is less than 3500 lbs. it’s enough to make any NA V6 turn higher RPMs at highway speeds.The lower towing numbers must be a cooling constraint- with EGR and CAC thermal loads, it probably just can’t maintain required power and stay cool like the Pentastar can without them.
Its safe to assume it will be a $4000 option with a $2000 AT requirement. With that much torque though, potential regear costs are truly gone though, so you can keep that money ($2k).
For me, there's some concern over the tow capacity and the fact that it's so expensive to add at 5k. I can add a SC and keep my tow capacity for the same price so while I get the whole torque ideal, it’s just not the diesel you should all want. Hard passActually drove the JL eco and a JT Mojave back to back this afternoon. The torque and planted feeling on the JL eco is outstanding and a completely different driving experience than the Mojave. The Mojave felt like the desert runner it is designed to be. Lots of travel in the suspension and power at higher RPMs. After driving both there is absolutely no way I would buy a JT with anything other than the ecodiesel. My JT test drives have all left me a little deflated at the lack of torque. Can’t wait for the eco in the JT.
For me, there's some concern over the tow capacity and the fact that it's so expensive to add at 5k. I can add a SC and keep my tow capacity for the same price so while I get the whole torque ideal, it’s just not the diesel you should all want. Hard pass
good option for some but I’d rather keep the warranty. Also how well it tows vrs how much it can tow. I’d rather tow under 5k easily than run 4500 RPMs trying to pull 5k up a small incline. The diesel Powertrain warranty shows to be 5 years 100k on the wrangler, so assuming same on JT.For me, there's some concern over the tow capacity and the fact that it's so expensive to add at 5k. I can add a SC and keep my tow capacity for the same price so while I get the whole torque ideal, it’s just not the diesel you should all want. Hard pass
just seems like they shoved a half baked diesel down everyone’s throats when they could’ve given people a really great option for power. Everyone should just wait for the inevitable Hemis.good option for some but I’d rather keep the warranty. Also how well it tows vrs how much it can tow. I’d rather tow under 5k easily than run 4500 RPMs trying to pull 5k up a small incline. The diesel Powertrain warranty shows to be 5 years 100k on the wrangler, so assuming same on JT.
Most agree the diesel choice is not based on cost savings. I personally have no interest in the 3.6. I rode in a friends while towing a trailer loaded with a four wheeler and 1000lbs of feed and the engine revving really got annoying. My fuel comparison is a little different than yours, as the fuel price difference seems to be regional. In Texas there is a .20 per gallon difference per AAA ($1.89 vrs $2.10). So if I can average 21 instead 16 (per fuelly users) I’d be getting 20% better fuel economy for 10% increase in price. Plus the TFL guys hit 30 MPG highway with the diesel Wrangler and it spanked the JT in the 1/4 mile. Def is very cheap here and I’ll likely do my own oil and fuel filter changes to negate that cost as well.just seems like they shoved a half baked diesel down everyone’s throats when they could’ve given people a really great option for power. Everyone should just wait for the inevitable Hemis.
It might be 3800 at invoice, but add the higher cost of fuel, and I just don’t see the value. It’s costs 50% more to buy diesel fuel for 25% more mileage.
ecodiesels Just don’t do what everyone wants it to, as evidenced by the fraudulent emissions numbers leading to lawsuits, shit software updates, and pedal lag/mpg losses.
I just think there’s better ways to earn torque.
amazing how different the cost comparison is regionally.Most agree the diesel choice is not based on cost savings. I personally have no interest in the 3.6. I rode in a friends while towing a trailer loaded with a four wheeler and 1000lbs of feed and the engine revving really got annoying. My fuel comparison is a little different than yours, as the fuel price difference seems to be regional. In Texas there is a .20 per gallon difference per AAA ($1.89 vrs $2.10). So if I can average 21 instead 16 (per fuelly users) I’d be getting 20% better fuel economy for 10% increase in price. Plus the TFL guys hit 30 MPG highway with the diesel Wrangler and it spanked the JT in the 1/4 mile. Def is very cheap here and I’ll likely do my own oil and fuel filter changes to negate that cost as well.
Yup. From last year:The lower towing numbers must be a cooling constraint- with EGR and CAC thermal loads, it probably just can’t maintain required power and stay cool like the Pentastar can without them.
Its safe to assume it will be a $4000 option with a $2000 AT requirement. With that much torque though, potential regear costs are truly gone though, so you can keep that money ($2k).