392 Gladiator V8 Hemi confirmed by Jeep CEO!

[Stan H]

Close but not quite.
The wrangler Rubicon with the 3.6 can only tow 3500#’s also. The difference between the Wrangler and the Gladiator is the wheelbase and possibly the brakes (I didn’t check) everything else is the same. So cooling has absolutely nothing to do with the Wrangler 392’s towing capacity.

It is center of gravity and suspension and length all rolled into the equation for sure because as you say the drive train on a JL is thd same if both have the 3.6L

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[ShadowsPapa]

It is center of gravity and suspension and length all rolled into the equation for sure because as you say the drive train on a JL is thd same if both have the 3.6L

The 2026 JLU Rubicon with 3.6 is only 1,000 less than a 2026 Mojave JT for towing.
Yes, wheelbase comes into play if you look at what it has to do to pass those tests. Braking - stopping in a completely straight line is a lot easier with a long vehicle.

So figure a 2026 JLU Rubicon with 3.6 can tow 5,000 and a 2026 Gladiator Mojave can tow 6,000 pounds, brakes, wheelbase and so on come into play.

There's no one single factor involved. these are a sum of parts working together..

BTW - sales manager here says that in Ram trucks, the I6 twin turbo is outselling the other engines.
The hemi is doing well, though and may catch up.
Here one for people to ponder - they said that Ram didn't yet have a hemi in all levels because of architectural issues! And - they aren't building a lot of hemis, so orders are really slow to arrive, taking many weeks or months. Imagine that, hmm, hemi in some Ram trucks but not others because they had to iron out architectural issues.
Could it be similar for Jeeps? Imagine that, engines aren't just drop in and drive it away. Go figure

 

[Stan H]

The 2026 JLU Rubicon with 3.6 is only 1,000 less than a 2026 Mojave JT for towing.
Yes, wheelbase comes into play if you look at what it has to do to pass those tests. Braking - stopping in a completely straight line is a lot easier with a long vehicle.

So figure a 2026 JLU Rubicon with 3.6 can tow 5,000 and a 2026 Gladiator Mojave can tow 6,000 pounds, brakes, wheelbase and so on come into play.

There's no one single factor involved. these are a sum of parts working together..

BTW - sales manager here says that in Ram trucks, the I6 twin turbo is outselling the other engines.
The hemi is doing well, though and may catch up.
Here one for people to ponder - they said that Ram didn't yet have a hemi in all levels because of architectural issues! And - they aren't building a lot of hemis, so orders are really slow to arrive, taking many weeks or months. Imagine that, hmm, hemi in some Ram trucks but not others because they had to iron out architectural issues.
Could it be similar for Jeeps? Imagine that, engines aren't just drop in and drive it away. Go figure

The other day when I was watching Ian Johnson they had to offset the 6.4 by a full 1.5" off center in order to correctly line things up.
I feel confident in 1 thing ..no way would I ever attempt it myself the amount of welding and wiring and fabrication is way beyond my skill set. I love his show though. " Built for Off Road " on motor trend network

 

[RudeJeepin]

The other day when I was watching Ian Johnson they had to offset the 6.4 by a full 1.5" off center in order to correctly line things up.
I feel confident in 1 thing ..no way would I ever attempt it myself the amount of welding and wiring and fabrication is way beyond my skill set. I love his shoe though. " Built for Off Road " on motor trend network

I remember when he was on Xtreme 4x4 with the late, great Jesse Combs. He was the sidekick for cheap entertainment. She was the brains and skills.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

The 2026 JLU Rubicon with 3.6 is only 1,000 less than a 2026 Mojave JT for towing.
Yes, wheelbase comes into play if you look at what it has to do to pass those tests. Braking - stopping in a completely straight line is a lot easier with a long vehicle.

So figure a 2026 JLU Rubicon with 3.6 can tow 5,000 and a 2026 Gladiator Mojave can tow 6,000 pounds, brakes, wheelbase and so on come into play.

There's no one single factor involved. these are a sum of parts working together..

BTW - sales manager here says that in Ram trucks, the I6 twin turbo is outselling the other engines.
The hemi is doing well, though and may catch up.
Here one for people to ponder - they said that Ram didn't yet have a hemi in all levels because of architectural issues! And - they aren't building a lot of hemis, so orders are really slow to arrive, taking many weeks or months. Imagine that, hmm, hemi in some Ram trucks but not others because they had to iron out architectural issues.
Could it be similar for Jeeps? Imagine that, engines aren't just drop in and drive it away. Go figure

Who said the hemi wasn’t in all Rams due to architecture issues?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Who said the hemi wasn’t in all Rams due to architecture issues?

Some levels of the Ram were delayed in getting the hemi. You just couldn't get them for a while. They had to work some issues out.
Dealer said not available to order for a while and his sales training said they were working on it.

Maybe it's resolved by now, but he said if someone wanted certain Ram trims/models with the hemi, it was going to take a while and for a while, they couldn't order certain versions of Ram trucks.

 

[jmr]

The 2025 RAM 1500 has the new Atlantis High electrical architecture. That is where many of the issues have been not necessarily the Hurricane 3.0 although there have been some problems there too. The transmission also had module issues too. The AlfaOBD software does not work with the new architecture either.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Some levels of the Ram were delayed in getting the hemi. You just couldn't get them for a while. They had to work some issues out.
Dealer said not available to order for a while and his sales training said they were working on it.

Maybe it's resolved by now, but he said if someone wanted certain Ram trims/models with the hemi, it was going to take a while and for a while, they couldn't order certain versions of Ram trucks.

But we don’t know why they were delayed, do we?

Recently someone was saying Hemi Rams weren’t selling as well and I suggested there were possibly other reasons like this that could be factors.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The Hurricane is selling better than the hemi and the 3.6
They expect hemi numbers to eventually catch up to the hurricane.
The sales manager here said that the hemi Rams don't sit on the lots long.

Units ordered by customers are considered sold orders. So if you ordered one in September but it wasn't built and delivered until next month, it's still considered a sold order in their numbers.

Two issues - one is that certain levels were not yet being built with the hemi due to the "architectural issues" and another is - hemi production is slow.
So some levels couldn't be ordered with it for a while, others - you wait forever.

That's all I can say - when I ask these guys questions, they literally dig. It took 2 days to get back to me with the info.

 

[addy003]

It is center of gravity and suspension and length all rolled into the equation for sure because as you say the drive train on a JL is thd same if both have the 3.6L

From what I understood at launch the Gladiator frame, particularly the rear end, has more in common with a Ram 1500 than a Wrangler. I remember the 'they just put a bed on a Wrangler' comment responses saying it was a completely different frame. I think we know it's not a completely different frame; it certainly shares components, but I thought that was the reason for the argument that it was not just a Jeep, it was a legit truck.
I don't have a goat in this race, so I've not researched the engineering of the frame to confirm or disprove this information. Don't @ me!

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

From what I understood at launch the Gladiator frame, particularly the rear end, has more in common with a Ram 1500 than a Wrangler. I remember the 'they just put a bed on a Wrangler' comment responses saying it was a completely different frame. I think we know it's not a completely different frame; it certainly shares components, but I thought that was the reason for the argument that it was not just a Jeep, it was a legit truck.
I don't have a goat in this race, so I've not researched the engineering of the frame to confirm or disprove this information. Don't @ me!

Don't know how the frames compare, but the Gladiator and Ram 1500 use the same upper and lower control arms in the rear.

 

[smlobx]

OK, OK, I just heard from my super secret source that the 5.7 is coming to the Gladiator. It’s settled…


My source you ask? A random sales guy at my local dealership of course! They have all the inside scoop?

J/K!

 

[ecidiego]

OK, OK, I just heard from my super secret source that the 5.7 is coming to the Gladiator. It’s settled…


My source you ask? A random sales guy at my local dealership of course! They have all the inside scoop?

J/K!

That's my sisters's brother. Take it to the bank.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

That's my sisters's brother. Take it to the bank.

Into my oxycodone again, eh?

 

[AmosMoses]

I met a crystal reader at a marathon gas station bathroom and he told me the 3.0 hurricane was going to launch in 2027 for the jt. So the 5.7 isnt coming after all.

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