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They killed the overland trim for MY24 (and second half of MY23 to my knowledge). I'm not saying i can't see them bringing it back for MY25 as a 4xe only trim, but i wouldn't count on it.
I just learned that after I was messing around with their builder online. Weird. Guess it wasn’t selling as well? Idk.
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After seeing my wife get roughly 800 miles per tank of gas thanks to charging at home everyday and only driving local for work. I can’t wait for the gladiator 4xe
I mean, energy isn’t free, so you have to consider that…

but if trading in your truck and spending $60k plus on a midsize truck to fill up less when you drive to work and back is valuable to you, I’m happy you’re getting the option.
 

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Talking hybrid look at the 25 MY Ram Charger coming out. Electric power train but a v6 to charge the battery. This is the type of power train I want.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jeep modifies the 4xe for the JT to be a similar setup with the smaller 4-banger to save weight.

Right now there is nobody with a hybrid in the mid-size world except the Tacomas, and they're not really out in the wild- yet. Jeep has a golden opportunity to capitalize IF they can get it right out of the gate.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Jeep modifies the 4xe for the JT to be a similar setup with the smaller 4-banger to save weight.

Right now there is nobody with a hybrid in the mid-size world except the Tacomas, and they're not really out in the wild- yet. Jeep has a golden opportunity to capitalize IF they can get it right out of the gate.
4 banger that can keep the battery charged for long trips would not be a problem for me, though I am not a fan of direct injection engines which most are. Too many have issues with the valves getting fouled from the PCV return.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Jeep modifies the 4xe for the JT to be a similar setup with the smaller 4-banger to save weight.

Right now there is nobody with a hybrid in the mid-size world except the Tacomas, and they're not really out in the wild- yet. Jeep has a golden opportunity to capitalize IF they can get it right out of the gate.
The JM is supposed to offer a REV version. I'd imagine we will see it there first in 2027 when the new 2028 models come out. Hopefully the JT survives and we will see it there shortly after as well.
 

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Why won't it work as a truck towing and hauling? The current 4xe will tow and haul in the Grand Cherokee and jlu all day since the battery never goes truly flat. Once the electric range is done it uses the remaining 3ish kwh as a regular hybrid so it keeps the HP and torque numbers. At that point it will just have the mpg numbers of the 3.6/2.0 but with 5.7 hemi levels of power. The Grand Cherokee is rated to tow and haul more than the diesel as well so seems like the power train is easily up to the task of "being used as a truck".
It's not about number but about how WELL it tows. Sure the max tow has officially better tow ratings compared to the diesel but the true real life experience is much different. With the 3.6 you have to rev the shit out of it, putting large amounts of stress on the engine and your mpgs just crater. With the diesel you'll barely be able to tell you are pulling anything at all. 4 times a year I haul a loaded 16ft enclosed trailer from the southern tip of TX to northern MN(1700 miles). The diesel does it effortlessly while I wouldn't be surprised if a 3.6 would be killed or at least have its lifespan greatly shortened. That's at 70mph as well.

Again it's not a numbers game but experience. There's a reason why Jeep didn't put the 2.0 in the JT and doing so is gonna be a dog. The 3.6 is barely adequate right now, I hate to see how much worse when loaded down with batteries and even more complexity. Also why settle for anything that's just adequate?
 

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It's not about number but about how WELL it tows. Sure the max tow has officially better tow ratings compared to the diesel but the true real life experience is much different. With the 3.6 you have to rev the shit out of it, putting large amounts of stress on the engine and your mpgs just crater. With the diesel you'll barely be able to tell you are pulling anything at all. 4 times a year I haul a loaded 16ft enclosed trailer from the southern tip of TX to northern MN(1700 miles). The diesel does it effortlessly while I wouldn't be surprised if a 3.6 would be killed or at least have its lifespan greatly shortened. That's at 70mph as well.

Again it's not a numbers game but experience. There's a reason why Jeep didn't put the 2.0 in the JT and doing so is gonna be a dog. The 3.6 is barely adequate right now, I hate to see how much worse when loaded down with batteries and even more complexity. Also why settle for anything that's just adequate?
All the reviews I've read and seen say the 4xe is a pretty capable towing rig on both platforms. Worse mpg than the diesel for sure, but from a power perspective the 4xe is a non-event and from a control perspective superior thanks to its higher weight, lower cg, and regen braking adding significant braking power.

Not saying the 4xe is going to beat a diesel at the one thing the 3.0 does really well which is towing long distances, but if towing long distances is your main use case, there are way better diesels and trucks than the 3.0 in the gladiator which derates itself.
 

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Again it's not a numbers game but experience. There's a reason why Jeep didn't put the 2.0 in the JT and doing so is gonna be a dog. The 3.6 is barely adequate right now, I hate to see how much worse when loaded down with batteries and even more complexity. Also why settle for anything that's just adequate?
You apparently miss the point of a HYBRID.
You are never ever really using only the 2.0
You are always backing it with electric.
The 3.6 is fine, why do you say barely adequate? There's people here towing 5,000, even 6,000 pounds with the 3.6 JT
But again, why do you say "there's a reason why Jeep didn't put the 2.0 in the JT" when the 2.0 is never ever alone in a 4xe.
There is ALWAYS electric - no matter what, you have the hp and torque of a V8 even when yo run past that 20-30 miles of electric range.
Did you miss where i talked of our 4xe going through the mountains and hardly ever downshifting even o some good grades? it doesn't need to because that 4xe always has the power and torque of a hemi! Always.
 

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Worse mpg than the diesel for sure, but from a power perspective the 4xe is a non-event and from a control perspective superior thanks to its higher weight, lower cg, and regen braking adding significant braking power.
You'll likely never need brake pads, and the braking on these is killer. I mean be ready or you'll be thrown forward in the seat.
 

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So you’re saying the Tacomas are plug-in hybrids? That’s news to me. They are hybrids but not PHEV or like the Prius which uses its energy/battery for gas mileage. Instead, Toyota has downsized their archaic V6 to turbo4. That is where they are trying to gain efficiency. Then to supplement the power, specifically in high demand scenarios like towing/hills/quick starts, they use the battery and 48v motor. But no, Tacomas are not PHEVs.
I know what they are but you don’t have to plug in the 4XE if you don’t want to I’m just not convinced on the reliability when towing on either. To many maintenance items on them how many cooling systems does the 4XE have 2 or three, cooling for the turbo cooling for the battery and cooling for the engine.
 

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I know what they are but you don’t have to plug in the 4XE if you don’t want to I’m just not convinced on the reliability when towing on either. To many maintenance items on them how many cooling systems does the 4XE have 2 or three, cooling for the turbo cooling for the battery and cooling for the engine.
I hear you. But it’s critical that this tech is deployed, tried, broken and made truer and truer until it’s proven and dependable.

Its critical for the Jeep brand, our countries and our planet.

PM me for a personal debate on any matter mentioned.

10-15 years down the road, maybe sooner, do not plan to be reliant upon hydrocarbons for the daily ride.

…zero to do with the climate, pm for a convo if wanted.

Segway back gladiator 4xe, it’s in the gc here now. It’s expensive which inhibits uptake. However ..

The public tow like mad here. Generally pushing things to and beyond the limit. The heat here, it’s like your Death Valley but far and wide and often.

They will find out how quickly it dies here. There’s no doubt of it.

Heres a pretty crap gc 4xe review (there aren’t many). But it does give some early answers to many of the q’s asked here to date.

And like I’ve said before the prior wk 3.0L v6 diesel was desired here for towing and open country cruising. It sold well and was well known. Foibles and all.

I’m sure there’s a ton of better reviews over your way etc. yet this one is recent and an early taster ..

And again, it’s not a great review. It’s just something.

https://www.caravancampingsales.com...tow-test-jeep-grand-cherokee-4xe-2024-144779/
 

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Well, crap, that blows ours away.............I was feeling pretty good until I read your post.

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Yea it’s awesome. My wife is a teacher and the school is 4 miles away. So during the week she never uses gas. Even running errands around town is on all electric. When we have to go further for games on weekends we get mostly all electric until maybe the last 10 miles home will be on gas. We get roughly 29 miles to a full charge. Yes it does cost to charge. My electric bill has gone up $45/month since we got it. I’ll take that over the price of gas.
 

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I’m hoping they have the gladiator as a series hybrid like the new Ram….but I don’t think that’s in the cards. I’m interested in the Ramcharger if they have some off road ish trim.
 

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I hear you. But it’s critical that this tech is deployed, tried, broken and made truer and truer until it’s proven and dependable.

Its critical for the Jeep brand, our countries and our planet.

PM me for a personal debate on any matter mentioned.

10-15 years down the road, maybe sooner, do not plan to be reliant upon hydrocarbons for the daily ride.

…zero to do with the climate, pm for a convo if wanted.

Segway back gladiator 4xe, it’s in the gc here now. It’s expensive which inhibits uptake. However ..

The public tow like mad here. Generally pushing things to and beyond the limit. The heat here, it’s like your Death Valley but far and wide and often.

They will find out how quickly it dies here. There’s no doubt of it.

Heres a pretty crap gc 4xe review (there aren’t many). But it does give some early answers to many of the q’s asked here to date.

And like I’ve said before the prior wk 3.0L v6 diesel was desired here for towing and open country cruising. It sold well and was well known. Foibles and all.

I’m sure there’s a ton of better reviews over your way etc. yet this one is recent and an early taster ..

And again, it’s not a great review. It’s just something.

https://www.caravancampingsales.com...tow-test-jeep-grand-cherokee-4xe-2024-144779/
10-15 years down the road, maybe sooner, do not plan to be reliant upon hydrocarbons for the daily ride. Well as long as plastics are in vehicles it’s based on Hydrocarbons along with most daily items.
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