since it’s not full electric. Also, if I had a 28 gallon tank in my 3.0D how many miles could I go 28gal x 26mile/gal = 728miles. I’m guessing the Penstar would in current setup get the same 600 range with that big of a tank. All of this just appears to be lipstick on a pig. Of course at least there would be tons of torque but I really don’t see any advantage of this setup for energy conservation or emissions.
The problem with all of the comparing going on is the misguided bit about switching back and forth - "switch drive power rom electric to gas and go back again". You don't do that.
From an overall green perspective the actual best approach is a traditional phev which has a battery just big enough to handle the average daily commute on a single charge and then an efficient gas engine for further duties. This allows for the most amount of efficiency from a given amount of raw materials for batteries as it allows for more daily commutes on more efficient battery power vs making a pure EV that uses 10 times the battery to still drive the same amount daily. It also gets rid of range anxiety and allows for infrastructure to catch up and be modernized.
One Horsepower is 0.7457 kilowatts. My dash shows under moderate load that I'm drawing 40-80kw on my 4xe. So the power input on that would be 29.9-59.7 horsepower, not including losses from the conversion process. Not a huge amount of power, but that's only doing 60mph on a mostly level road.
I wonder if those making arguments about downstream effects from renewable mineral extraction would make the same argument about other rocks and mineral extraction, like say coal, gold (heavy metal ponds), silver, etc. Even if the regulations are there for containment, regulations that may change each time there is an Executive Branch change (i.e EPA administration) at least recently, then it should be contained.How big is that battery under the seat? I wonder if they will opt for a bed mounted battery at the cost of bed space instead considering the heavier weight and more power needed in the Gladiator compared to the JL.
Yeah but one really cannot claim that much 'renewable' energy because to be truthful a person really needs to look at the big picture. In other words, where did those 'renewables' come from? Such as wind turbines. What materials are needed in their manufacturer, transport, install, maintenance - it all matters. Where is the electricity from that powers the computers for the engineers to do their designing? What about office spaces, commenting employees, etc... Looking at something at the end point is really a bad idea because depending on variables, a person can make any pile of poo look like a diamond with enough processes down the line. Saying California's energy is not from greenhouse gasses is flat out wrong if you look into the details deep enough. What if, just saying if because I dont know, the energy needed to create said 'renewable' energy devices was significantly worse than the amount of energy it would ever create in its lifetime... Case in point, the Berkley pit in Butte. It's bad, real bad. But if someone way down stream in Noxon did a water sample they might say something like "well now all that billions of dollars worth of water treatment is doing great, theres next to no sign of contamination here", but you see the fallacy in that, and would you want to be drinking that water despite the 'numbers' being just fine? I doubt it. There are also equal problems caused by all these 'renewable' sources that are simply out of sight out of mind. Kinda like diamond mines in Russia, oh and this super large one in Canada. At the end of the day, the only true method to reduce consumption and pollution is to just have/use/do less. Because 250 years from now someone might say something like, "man, I wish those idiots in 2020 realized that 500 billion wind turbines would screw up the worlds wind patterns and now our weather is all sorts of jacked...."
I mean sure, maybe Ca has it right, but without perspective on a larger scale (which nobody truly has a handle on) you don't know what you don't know, and all that 'renewable' energy could be far far worse than the alternative.
As opposed to whom?
This is perhaps an apples and oranges comparison, but I was amazed at how small the battery space is on our 2023 RAV4 Prime. It's not tiny, but is smaller than the back seat area.
Bill and I will be long gone by that time! Our grandkids will have to deal with it. There's always the moon and Mars.
That's what our RAV4 Prime does, and the Wrangle 4xE that Bill has talked about. We get 50-51 miles on a charge then the ICE kicks in. We charge with 6.3 kV rooftop solar.
