6 Speed Manual Regrets?

[Bbannongmu]

It should If ignition is on run.

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[seven30]

It should If ignition is on run.

You can pop start it UNLESS the battery is flat dead. The alternator needs a minimal voltage before it will produce power (unlike the old generators) and its controlled by the ECU. Kind of a catch 22 thing.
To me JT is kind of schizoid with some elemental aspects mixed with prius electroidizms. I want the Luddite package: key switch, real gauges, non-integrated electronics. Of course lots of map pockets too

 

[syreeves]

Does that still work with the computer controlled JL/JT?

Yep. Works just like you'd think it should. The start button "key" needs to be in the RUN position and then let up the clutch in 2nd while rolling forward and the engine starts. Did it accidentally once when I stalled in my slight downhill driveway (yeesh that was embarrassing in front of my 14yr old who is learning to drive stick from me!). My old training kicked in and i pushed the clutch in to try to save the stall but the had already engine died - so I shifted into second and let up on the clutch and then pushed it back in i.e. I "popped" the clutch and the engine started right up.

 

[seven30]

Yep. Works just like you'd think it should. The start button "key" needs to be in the RUN position and then let up the clutch in 2nd while rolling forward and the engine starts. Did it accidentally once when I stalled in my slight downhill driveway (yeesh that was embarrassing in front of my 14yr old who is learning to drive stick from me!). My old training kicked in and i pushed the clutch in to try to save the stall but the had already engine died - so I shifted into second and let up on the clutch and then pushed it back in i.e. I "popped" the clutch and the engine started right up.

Kind of neat isn't it!

 

[kd1yt]

You can pop start it UNLESS the battery is flat dead. The alternator needs a minimal voltage before it will produce power (unlike the old generators) and its controlled by the ECU. Kind of a catch 22 thing.
To me JT is kind of schizoid with some elemental aspects mixed with prius electroidizms. I want the Luddite package: key switch, real gauges, non-integrated electronics. Of course lots of map pockets too

In my daydreams, I think of a mechanically-injected high-output TDI engine...

 

[Deleted member 39643]

In my daydreams, I think of a mechanically-injected high-output TDI engine...

I too dream of this, then I wake up and realize I have Electronic Direct Injection, Push button start, and manual door looks. One day the JT may not start but at least the doors should work!

 

[kd1yt]

I too dream of this, then I wake up and realize I have Electronic Direct Injection, Push button start, and manual door looks. One day the JT may not start but at least the doors should work!

Actually we have indirect gasoline injection, which I prefer over direct for gasoline. DI for gasoline seems good in concept but problematic in practice, with things like the EGR and PCV glopping the valves up without the fuel washdown from the indirect injectors. TDI all the way on diesel, though...

 

[seven30]

In my daydreams, I think of a mechanically-injected high-output TDI engine...

Right on! I've owned both Peugeot and Mercedes mechanical turbo diesels. A lightweight version would be severely fun in the JT. Side note. I have a Detroit Diesel 8v71. No glowplugs. Rotate the engine with fuel rack on and it will start! No battery needed whatsoever.

 

[jc1986]

I'm dealing with my only "regret". I just need a beefier clutch and flywheel for towing and off-roading.

Any updates?

 

[Bbannongmu]

Any updates?

I have an appointment to get this installed tomorrow. Just got done breaking in gears (took me a while to get to 500 miles) and get the oil changed. Did some hill holding /stall testing and light off-roading with the stock clutch and new gears to baseline. Will post the Centerforce results after install and break in.

 

[Choatecav]

I have an appointment to get this installed tomorrow. Just got done breaking in gears (took me a while to get to 500 miles) and get the oil changed. Did some hill holding /stall testing and light off-roading with the stock clutch and new gears to baseline. Will post the Centerforce results after install and break in.

I would love to get one of these installed in my Mojave. I know I would love it. Just can't justify the cost right now as I have other trucks for hauling and trailers, but still would love it.

 

[Bbannongmu]

I would love to get one of these installed in my Mojave. I know I would love it. Just can't justify the cost right now as I have other trucks for hauling and trailers, but still would love it.

I hear ya. This is my rationalization - you literally use the clutch every time you drive, anywhere. It’s worth investing to make it do the things you want it to do. You’ll get your money’s worth. I applied the same rationale to my gears. My wife just shakes her head a d sighs…. It’s really an obsession OlllllllO …lol

 

[seven30]

I have an appointment to get this installed tomorrow. Just got done breaking in gears (took me a while to get to 500 miles) and get the oil changed. Did some hill holding /stall testing and light off-roading with the stock clutch and new gears to baseline. Will post the Centerforce results after install and break in.

500 miles?? Hey I want your old clutch. Maybe. Might be expensive to ship. Can you show detailed pics of the old clutch.? There is a ton of misinformation around about it. Like whether or not it has two discs for example.

 

[DanW]

Just completed a 3k mile trip to VT, NH, and ME with some pretty hard off-roading in there. The clutch got a real workout at Jericho Mountain State Park's 4x4 trail, which was pretty nasty. (Got a Badge of Honor, though!)

Anyway, 54k on the JL now and climbing with no clutch issues. Feels perfect.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

You can pop start it UNLESS the battery is flat dead. The alternator needs a minimal voltage before it will produce power (unlike the old generators) and its controlled by the ECU. Kind of a catch 22 thing.
To me JT is kind of schizoid with some elemental aspects mixed with prius electroidizms. I want the Luddite package: key switch, real gauges, non-integrated electronics. Of course lots of map pockets too

The electronics, the PCM (ECM these days), ignition, etc. require a minimum voltage. Nothing happens if the battery is flat on these systems.

The PCM won't regulate like the older alternator systems anyway - these are "smart alternators".
Prior systems you could bypass the PCM regulation circuit by putting a 1970s MOPAR regulator on the alternator and move on.

But yeah, alternator rotors are treated to not retain any residual magnetism.

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