Naw, it's even worse, they impersonate real people.
The 2.5 is one of the best jeep made but nothing is said?
Sorry I based my opinion on my experience not what I read from all the “experts”. If I listened to all the “experts” I would never get out of bed in the morning. No one I know that buys a Jeep worries about fuel economy so the start/ stop function becomes more of an annoyance than a valuable feature. That was my only point.
Jeep didn't do it for us... they did it for themselves... for their Corporate Average Fuel Economy numbers - that the Govt. is making more restrictive all the time. If they can think of a way to eek out 1-2 more MPG from any particular vehicle, you better believe they'll do it - no matter how much it raises the cost or lowers the reliability (to a point). If doing stuff like that (and producing EVs) enables them to continue to produce vehicles like this, then that's a fair trade-off. I just wish they had put that stupid aux. battery in a more easily accessible location given how often it fails.Sorry I based my opinion on my experience not what I read from all the “experts”. If I listened to all the “experts” I would never get out of bed in the morning. No one I know that buys a Jeep worries about fuel economy so the start/ stop function becomes more of an annoyance than a valuable feature. That was my only point.
Sorry I based my opinion on my experience not what I read from all the “experts”. If I listened to all the “experts” I would never get out of bed in the morning. No one I know that buys a Jeep worries about fuel economy so the start/ stop function becomes more of an annoyance than a valuable feature. That was my only point.
Both batteries fail. If you hit other forums, you'll see the consensus is that "Jeep batteries suck" and they are talking both batteries, all Jeeps. The instances of the main failing are almost as great as the aux failing. And the little battery gets blamed for everything from global cooling (or was it global warming? Maybe it caused hurricane Ian) mostly because of a lack of understanding and internet lore.
Great point. As long as you don’t use your Start/Stop function delete the auxiliary battery and be done with it. They can then stick that auxiliary battery in an area that’s even tougher to remove it from
Hey calm down. I didn’t mean to cause you to have a melt down and I never mentioned I hated anything. I was only stating what has been my experience which is that the auxiliary battery seems to be problem. I have a TJ and have never had a premature battery issue. I’m glad it doesn’t have an auxiliary battery. We all realize a battery is a replacement item and will last a good long time but this auxiliary battery seems to fail at a higher rate. Raven65 makes a great point to what the motivation is regarding squeezing out every MPG. Manufacturers are not motivated by helping consumers but rather by governmental entities. If we left it up to manufacturers we would be getting 10 mpg but I’m sure we would be getting from point A to B a lot faster.
Yes, I agree... but the general consensus seems to be that the aux battery fails first (and more often) and then proceeds to kill the main battery. That may be pure speculation on most peoples' part... I don't know... but regardless, I still wish they'd put the aux battery in a more accessible place given how often it has to be replaced. I've only had my Gladiator a few months, so I haven't had any failures yet, but I'll keep the aux battery as long as it can be replaced for free under warranty at the dealership. As soon as my warranty expires, it's gone.
Absolutely. It would make testing easier, charging easier, replacement easier.
lol at steering stabilizers causing death wobble
Very true. I suppose it would be worth installing a pair of high-quality batteries the first time one/both of them die after the warranty expires just to see if they last any longer before ditching the aux battery & ESS. I guess I'll make that call when the time comes... IF I even keep the vehicle beyond the warranty period. That will depend on my experience with the vehicle up to that point. If it gives me a lot of trouble during the warranty period, I'll likely sell/trade it just before the warranty is up. This is my first Jeep/FCA product, so the jury is out. We shall see. Hopefully I got a "good one" because I'm really enjoying it so far.
I agree, but also disagree with you. Gov shouldn't be involved at all. As many have pointed out, nobody is buying a Jeep to have to keep hitting the stupid button just to relieve stress on the vehicle and gain 2mpg.
I wasn't saying the Govt should be involved... only that they are. They have been ever since the automobile was invented and they will be until the next extinction event. We don't have to like it, but those are the facts of the matter.
