AcccuAir Lift System

[darkhorse13]

Ride comfort is extremely good for ride height setting. While more aerodynamic, setting 1is pretty stiff. Feels like performance struts on a old school Honda Prelude. LOLOLOL ? My stock Sport suspension on my High Altitude was more comfortable than setting 1. But auto level is amazing at all height settings and a real game changer!

Could just be that you are running into the bump stops too much at setting #1 given the rear has an extended 2in aluminum bump stop puck and the front is internal (have to imagine another 2in bump stop in that air bag given the provided 17.5" shock compression number). Accuair claims that spring rate remains constant at all settings so if that's true and the rate is soft enough then you could be blowing thru travel rather quickly... just a thought

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[Jbump30]

Could just be that you are running into the bump stops too much at setting #1 given the rear has an extended 2in aluminum bump stop puck and the front is internal (have to imagine another 2in bump stop in that air bag given the provided 17.5" shock compression number). Accuair claims that spring rate remains constant at all settings so if that's true and the rate is soft enough then you could be blowing thru travel rather quickly... just a thought

Good point! After cruising around at comfy ride height I was a bit 'shocked' (pun intended) at how firm bumps on the interstate felt on setting #1. I didn't feel like the wind pushing over square Lego blocks but I felt that familiar jarring of a sports car that bottoms out a bit hitting pavement transitions.

 

[darkhorse13]

Just an FYI for the group, I found this JL owner on YT that has been either a product tester or simply an early adopter of Accuair on his Wrangler. Seems to be a down to earth dude with real world, useful commentary. He personally loves the ride on setting #1 so I wonder what makes the JL possibly different in terms of ride quality?

He has unboxing and install videos as well but this one covers off on more of the functionality and his ride impressions towards the end. He has been honest about his install woes and some "non-positive" issues he encountered for those looking for cons (the list is pretty dang short though which is good)

 

[darkhorse13]

Good point! After cruising around at comfy ride height I was a bit 'shocked' (pun intended) at how firm bumps on the interstate felt on setting #1. I didn't feel like the wind pushing over square Lego blocks but I felt that familiar jarring of a sports car that bottoms out a bit hitting pavement transitions.

Since I haven't asked enough of you already...ha... can you measure the distance between the OEM yellow bump stop and aluminum disc pad in the rear in setting #1 when you have a chance?

 

[m-l_johnny]

So, to revive an aging post, lol
Any updates or changes in opinion or performance of this system?

One of the attractions of this system to me would be the ability to do minor vehicle leveling on uneven camping spots, as well as auto-leveling with the weight of a topper-camper and associated camping gear.

Someone else had questioned a concern I also have of how all the moving parts do in an (east coast: ie, mud/ sticks, etc) environment.

 

[Lunentucker]

So, to revive an aging post, lol
Any updates or changes in opinion or performance of this system?

One of the attractions of this system to me would be the ability to do minor vehicle leveling on uneven camping spots, as well as auto-leveling with the weight of a topper-camper and associated camping gear.

Someone else had questioned a concern I also have of how all the moving parts do in an (east coast: ie, mud/ sticks, etc) environment.

The one who shall not be named did a fairly lengthy test of the systems on a Gladiator and posted several Youtube reviews of it.

 

[darkhorse13]

It's worth noting in this post that Accuair has also released a REAR ONLY kit to their lineup. Seems like this is where most of us see the benefit...

https://accuair.com/products/2019-present-jt-platform-jeep-gladiator-air-suspension-system-rear-only

 

[fourfa]

Hm, so the full F&R kits are available only with non-adjustable plain 2” shocks because using anything other than their secret special shocks will void the air spring warranty [edit: citation needed]. But the rear kit does not include shocks at all, nor any specs on proper length. Just a limit strap

No way would I ever downgrade to non-adjustable shocks. Especially with a system like this

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[darkhorse13]

Hm, so the full F&R kits are available only with non-adjustable plain 2” shocks because using anything other than their secret special shocks will void the air spring warranty. But the rear kit does not include shocks at all, nor any specs on proper length. Just a limit strap

No way would I ever go downgrade to non-adjustable shocks. Especially with a system like this

I agree with the shock inquiry (as of 1/18/24 I asked the question on their website section)... per their questions section for the FULL SYSTEM on the website, I'd say as long as you stay within the parameters of the extended/compressed lengths of the JRi 2" shocks then you'd be fine running your own choice. I don't know if that affects any warranty of the rear bags though.

 

[CrazyCooter]

So given that stock Rubi shock lengths are 24 and 25.5, the supplied 27" shocks could be a reduction in available wheel travel if you bump for 37's on a sport. Definitely less travel than a "properly" setup sprung lift....even though most aren't supplied that way.

I want to like this kit and I have been toying with at least a rear air bag replacement.....The complexity of a system that would most definitely consist of imported parts and the possibility of something like a stick puncturing the bag leaving you in a bad spot a long way from home have kept me from pursuing it.

 

[fourfa]

I wish I could remember where I saw the claim that using anything but their shocks would void the warranty, or find it again. Currently the FAQ on their site says:

Are the shocks in the kit required or can other aftermarket shocks be used when installing?
The JRI Shocks we have included in the kit are specifically designed to work with our Dynamic lift kits and we know these shocks are the best option for optimal performance with our kit.
https://accuair.com/pages/frequently-asked-questions

So let's downgrade that to just a rumor. I hate to spread misinformation. It's good that they're willing to share the compressed/extended lengths - I hadn't found that info anywhere before now. I also note this encouraging FAQ:

Does this fit the Diesel Gladiator?
We will have a part number for a
Diesel Specific Kit launching this summer.

 

[fourfa]

And huh, the shocks in their kit are straight non-adjustable, non-reservoir shocks but they seem to have added these as an option:

https://accuair.com/collections/shocks/products/jri-jeep-jt-adjustable-shock-kit

Separate low and high speed compression adjusters, reservoirs, and $2400 for front and rear is not totally unreasonable... Looks like 2" all around though, and for the money you can have 2.25" falcons or 2.5" fox. Weird that you can't upselect these in a kit? Probably you can if you call and talk to someone. Good info there too:

Will these work with the Air suspension kits?
Yes, these will work with an air suspension system.

What is the front collapsed and extended shock length and rear?
All in inches Front JT shocks is same as JL fronts Extended 27.81 and Collapsed 18.06 Stroke 9.75 Rear JT Extended 26.88 Collapsed 17.28 Stroke 9.60

 

[darkhorse13]

I want to like this kit and I have been toying with at least a rear air bag replacement.....The complexity of a system that would most definitely consist of imported parts and the possibility of something like a stick puncturing the bag leaving you in a bad spot a long way from home have kept me from pursuing it.

I'm in the same boat as wanting to "like" this kit.. a lot. I would feel more comfortable with a rear only airbag setup. I have a Rock Krawler 4-link rear and honestly it's as simple as dropping the rear shock bolts at the axle out to allow the rear end to droop enough for the springs to simply fall out. Not having a trackbar is great Not saying I would, but I could easily carry around a set of traditional springs for a trail repair. The biggest hurdle for me with the 4 link is to find a way to retrofit the auto leveling "tabs" on the RK upper links.

 

[darkhorse13]

Ok, so who's going to be the guinea pig here???

 

[CrazyCooter]

I was considering the Timber Grove rear bag replacement kit, but when I pressed the owner for travel measurements, he couldn't give them to me?

Then there was the issue of air management and possible failure 1000s of miles from home while traveling. I thought about carrying a replacement bag, but our trucks are already overloaded and limited on storage space especially on a trip. Manual fill would take better than half the risk of failure from the equation but that in itself is a bit of a pain when your bags are the sole method of vehicle support?

Retrofitting a link with a mount for the height rod shouldn't be all that difficult? A simple tab like this one hose clamped to the tube could work? https://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/R2596-02.html?gad_source=1 I was even considering just using a manual valve from say a semi tractor suspension.

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