access to park/turn/drl connector and...........

[ShadowsPapa]

.............headlight connector.

I assume I can remove the front screws to pull the fender liner down enough to disconnect the 6 position connector for the turn/park/drls on the fender and unplug the harness (to insert a pigtail between) - is that correct? I can simply remove the front screws with - is it 10mm heads - and pull the liner down, release the latch and unplug the harness from the lead that goes to the light assembly?
I do not need to remove the lights at all - just gain access to the connector to disconnect it on each side and insert a harness I'm getting from Oracle - it's the same harness they use to power their Oculus light system.

Then - access to the connector feeding the headlights - do I need to disconnect all of the hoses and wires and pull the engine and radiator out to get to the headlight connections? Same thing there - I need to plug wires in between the factory headlight harness and the headlights.

I could figure it out - but time is important and it's getting really cold and I'm hoping to prep so that when the snow plow lighting harnesses arrive, I'm ready to install and go, knowing exactly what I need to do.

The plow harnesses come with "plug and play" ends for the headlights. Supposedly all I need to do is unplug the headlight connector, plug the factory connector into the plow harness, then plug the plow harness into the headlights.
The want me to cut and splice for the park/turn/DRL connections but I'm going to use the harness inserts from Oracle instead and run wires from those to the plow harness to avoid cutting into the factory harness.
I don't know why they have plugs for the headlights but want you to cut and splice the factory harness for those lights but this is a great work around. I could even have the turn/park/DRL parts installed already before the plow harness arrives.

#1 is easy once I know where the headlight connectors are.
#2, 3 and 4 I want to skip by using the Oracle harnesses.

They have a connector to plug to the headlights (yellow) - but want the park/turn and DRL spliced into the factory harness - cutting into it, and needing turn connected on both left and right of course (red) -

I plan on using these to tap into the wires needed instead of cutting into my factory wires -

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[Hootbro]

I assume I can remove the front screws to pull the fender liner down enough to disconnect the 6 position connector for the turn/park/drls on the fender and unplug the harness (to insert a pigtail between) - is that correct?

Removing the 3ea 10mm screws and one large clip just forward of the shock tower on the engine side of the liner should allow you to peel back the liner to gain access to the connector if that is all you are wanting to do.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Removing the 3ea 10mm screws and one large clip just forward of the shock tower on the engine side of the liner should allow you to peel back the liner to gain access to the connector if that is all you are wanting to do.

Correct - I need to access the connector, pull back the red lock, press a tab, pull the connection apart and put the Oracle pigtail in between the two factory connectors. So, just access to the connector. Not removing the lights.
Your description is very close to what I assumed looking up at the fender liner and trying to guess where the connector may be.

Next - figure out how to access the headlight harness connector to disconnect that from the lights and insert the Western pigtail between the headlights and the Jeep's factory headlight harness.
The left side may not be "too bad" but it looks like - is this correct- air box removal to get to the right side headlight harness connector?

 

[mdyucca]

When I have pulled the front fenders the DLR/turn signal electrical connection becomes exposed at fender mid point between the fender and body wheel well. Have not noticed the connection under the fender liner.

The head light electrical connection is found by removing the grill and headlight bucket.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

When I have pulled the front fenders the DLR/turn signal electrical connection becomes exposed at fender mid point between the fender and body wheel well. Have not noticed the connection under the fender liner.

The head light electrical connection is found by removing the grill and headlight bucket.

So there's no access to the connection to unplug the headlights from the engine bay, short of removal of grill and removal of headlights.......
I realize it's not difficult normally to remove the grill, but I'm sort of surprised that the headlight harness isn't accessible from the engine bay.
It might be difficult on mine - I Hope there's clearance to pull the grill forward with the big winch sitting up there in the way. On my 2020 it wasn't possible because the winch cable was less than 1/4" from the grill - no way to pull it forward and release the bottom clips.

I did some digging as far as the DRL/turn/park and found one other person who was installing the Oculus cable for their headlight conversion and said by taking bolts out and pulling back on the front part of the liner, they found and unplugged that connection and plugged their Oracle harness in.
That matches pretty well what Hootbro said about removing the front bolts, a clip and pulling the liner back to access the connection.

 

[mdyucca]

So there's no access to the connection to unplug the headlights from the engine bay, short of removal of grill and removal of headlights.......
I realize it's not difficult normally to remove the grill, but I'm sort of surprised that the headlight harness isn't accessible from the engine bay.
It might be difficult on mine - I Hope there's clearance to pull the grill forward with the big winch sitting up there in the way. On my 2020 it wasn't possible because the winch cable was less than 1/4" from the grill - no way to pull it forward and release the bottom clips.

I did some digging as far as the DRL/turn/park and found one other person who was installing the Oculus cable for their headlight conversion and said by taking bolts out and pulling back on the front part of the liner, they found and unplugged that connection and plugged their Oracle harness in.
That matches pretty well what Hootbro said about removing the front bolts, a clip and pulling the liner back to access the connection.

With my hands I have found the best way to access the headlight connections is easier from the front. The DLR/turn signal plug I have come across when removing fenders. I have not peeled fender liner back to look for it.

There is a grill mod (removing a few lower snaps) you may consider that allows removing the grill when a winch is mounted so close to the grill.

 

[yammiedude64]

I have installed the quadratec turn/park/drl on my 2020. Yes you can access the harness by peeling back the fender liner. Although my truck has a 2 inch lift and 37's it would have been much easier removing the wheel/tire as well.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

With my hands I have found the best way to access the headlight connections is easier from the front. The DLR/turn signal plug I have come across when removing fenders. I have not peeled fender liner back to look for it.

There is a grill mod (removing a few lower snaps) you may consider that allows removing the grill when a winch is mounted so close to the grill.

Thanks - very helpful. Sometimes the path that looks shorter, isn't..
So if my winch isn't a big issue, pulling the grill it is.
My hands aren't what they used to be - still, sore, losing muscle control over right hand...........

Cold weather has set in, I'm getting a bit "anxious" waiting on that stupid harness they told me could be obtained without issue, but then the invoice says "back order". Wiring in 20 degrees isn't a fun thing so I'm trying to have ducks, chickens, geese and cats all in a row so when that harness arrives, I'm flying fast and ready.
When the Oracle harnesses arrive, I'll go ahead and put them in place so the fender liner part for the park/turn/DRL will be done then all that will be left is a dozen other pieces, adapters, isolators, relays, and so on. Ha

 

[Rockabillyroy]

I used AAL drl harness and did not remove anything. I looked up from underneath, noted the location, reached up, disconnected the factory harness and inserted the harness. Same for both sides.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I used AAL drl harness and did not remove anything. I looked up from underneath, noted the location, reached up, disconnected the factory harness and inserted the harness. Same for both sides.

How far back is that connector?
Half-way?
I don't need access to the turn lights in the fender, just to the connector where the truck's harness connects to the pigtail coming from the turn/park/DRL lights.
I need to disconnect this one and insert the Oracle so I can feed the Western Plow light system.
I need to be able to reach it enough to pull out the red clip, push in the latch, insert the other harness, and put it all back together, with old stiff cold fingers LOL

I have twice now read that the driver's side can be accessed through the engine bay.

 

[JRobes]

The connector for the front fender lights runs back to this location (same on both sides) and it's mounted to the main body, not the fender itself. It's a pain to get to, and I've attempted getting to them by removing as little of the fender and liners as possible and it's just plain difficult. If I had to go out and do it now, I'd just pull the whole fender off as it gives you full clear access and you only risk breaking a couple of the white plastic fender clips (I have spares) instead of having to drill out and replace plastic rivets.

 

[Rockabillyroy]

How far back is that connector?
Half-way?
I don't need access to the turn lights in the fender, just to the connector where the truck's harness connects to the pigtail coming from the turn/park/DRL lights.
I need to disconnect this one and insert the Oracle so I can feed the Western Plow light system.
I need to be able to reach it enough to pull out the red clip, push in the latch, insert the other harness, and put it all back together, with old stiff cold fingers LOL

I have twice now read that the driver's side can be accessed through the engine bay.

Close to behind the shock. Lay on your back, look up, shine a flashlight. You will see it.

I did in on a Rubicon. Not sure if that makes a difference. I had to do it twice, since the first harness they made was for their light. They made a new harness for the factory lights. It was a breeze for me both times.
YMMV. Good luck.

Here is driver side.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I can see why some say the left connector is accessible from the engine bay - you can see it and feel it. But - could I pull the red lock, press the tab and unclip, disconnect and put the other in between and put it back together from above? Likely not me - some probably could.

I can almost see where the wires go on the right side but with the fuse panel, battery and all the electric there, no way to reach down to it.

But I can confirm - it lines up with the top of the shocks as far as position front to rear so knowing exactly where it is will be a help.

Phone in engine bay, under master cylinder, looking outward toward the fender - it appears clipped to the body panel. I assume this is it............

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I received the Oracle harnesses today. Perfect.
I can use one as it arrived, on the other one I simply need to move a wire from the park wire to the DRL wire in this bundle.

I did unwrap their sheath from this one so I could move the small red wire over to the white wire for a DRL signal for the plow lighting system.

In this Oracle pigtail, these are the wires, in order -

Oracle light adapters -

1 - Blue - fault sense (unused by Oracle)
2 - Yellow - Turn signal driver
3 - Green - Ground (unused by Oracle)
4 - Red - Park lamp driver
5 - White - DRL (unused by Oracle)
6 - Black - Ground

I don't need two park signals, so the small red tap from the black pigtail will be moved to the white wire on this set.

I bought the other side of the round black screw together connector on Amazon and will attach that to the plow's wiring harness and then simply plug things together.

Oracle says this is how they "tap into" the lighting for their Oculus color change headlight set for Gladiator/Wrangler so they had these ready to go.

Now if it warms up I need to reach those connectors I was asking y'all about and try to plug this in. Oh, fun.

 

[garzilla]

I can see why some say the left connector is accessible from the engine bay - you can see it and feel it. But - could I pull the red lock, press the tab and unclip, disconnect and put the other in between and put it back together from above? Likely not me - some probably could.

I can almost see where the wires go on the right side but with the fuse panel, battery and all the electric there, no way to reach down to it.

But I can confirm - it lines up with the top of the shocks as far as position front to rear so knowing exactly where it is will be a help.

Phone in engine bay, under master cylinder, looking outward toward the fender - it appears clipped to the body panel. I assume this is it............

Using this tomorrow! Thanks for the pics. Just going to use a tap.

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