Auxiliary LED Reverse Lights (Integrated Rear Bumper)

[Radio Guy]

For now I gooped a bunch of black silicone sealant around the wire exit point which will seal the holes and immobilize the wires as they exit the housing. This will not provide any real protection from pulling on the wires but its all I can do with the lights mounted in the vehicle. I should have waited to install them and removed the wire connections on the circuit board adding some hot glue heatshrink as a strain relief then mold that inside some potting compound that starts down inside the light after resolderng the wires with shorter flying leads inside the light.

Another thing I would have done different is put a flat black coating over the circuit board beneath the LEDs that cover and hide the visible components on the board. That would give a cleaner look and if the assy is not sealed it would conformal coat the components protecting them from the elements.

I'm not up to your standards or expertise for sure - but I also noted the grommets where the wires exit the light - not sealed when the wires are pulled to make contact. I was concerned about water getting in. I tried liquid tape but it won't stick so I assume that's a silicone of some sort, not "rubber" per se.
With the wires on the right light pulled to make the connection, it appears to open the holes in that grommet. I did not take things apart to see if I was correct about that wire exit opening allowing water in.
I did not realize or notice there's no strain relief. I do agree that the whole wire pair with the insulation should exit in one single hole, not individually. The strain relief should be on the insulation with the internal wires being slack within.

Good catch. Any pull on the wires, like our ice and snow build-up on wires in the winter will likely break those small individual wires.
Not sure why the insulation or outer jacket doesn't go clear into the light. .

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[JJ's JT]

I installed the lights on a 2020 Overland with LED lights and rear cross path detection. Below are the issues I had with the install:

1. I had to grind one of the upper center most locating tabs by 1/8 of an inch on the passenger side to get it to fit into the mounting location on the bumper.
2. The new LED lights do not have the harness mount for the outer most rear cross path detection sensors. Had to find another way the secure the sensor harness.
3. The plug-n-play harness crossing over to the passenger side light was too short forcing me to remove the factory harness from its mount at the driver taillight. I did not want to do that but was able to tie wrap the factory harness back to the mounts after I got the additional slack I needed. I also had to add some flexible wire conduit in locations where the wires could rub against the frame.
4. The plug-in-play harness connector would not lock with the taillight connector. Had to wrap with electricians tape to secure. Not optimal.
5. I agree with the comments about the sealing of the small wires to lights. I like the idea of adding some silicone to help seal and provide a bit of strain relief to the wires to help prevent breakage due to vibrations and what ever debris is thrown up from the tires. Not ideal but it could help.

With that said, the new LED reverse lights make a HUGE improvement to factory lights!

 

[am1978]

@ORACLElights, are you going to make a short extension cable with the male/female connectors on the ends? How do we get one, or would you ship one to each of us who ordered the PNP harness?

 

[JP_Oracle]

@LowerSlower @GladiatorPilot @am1978 - Similar to the JL, the halogen model JT's in some cases will see the additional load from the reverse lights and shut down the circuit. This is easily remedied by swapping the reverse light bulbs in the tail light to LED bulbs.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We went to a 4th of July party last night to eat, visit with friends and cousins of my wife and watch the huge (for a SMALL town, anyway) fireworks. Obviously it was late and dark when we left.
There was about 1 car length between my truck and the car behind us (fire hydrant zone between us) and when I left I had to back up a bit to be able to pull out and around the car parked close in front of us. I cringed when I put it in reverse and I'm sure I blinded the poor person in that car behind us even though it was a good car length back from us. It lit up their car and the interior nicely - I could have seen the color of their seats.
But the nice part was when I got home and pulled just past our driveway, put it in reverse and turned to back down out not straight driveway (it angles from the road down to our garage for a century old reason)
These lit up the road and top of our driveway nicely so I could easily make the reverse turn onto the drive and not miss and hit the lawn and it lit up the front of our garage backing down (120 feet away) so I could see clearly to aim and back right in.

My only "wish it was better" things I already mentioned - harness length, pigtail insulation going into the lights and secured for stress relief, sealed where pigtail enters light grommet, etc.
BUT I know I was an early adopter, and know there are few products that meet my OCD demand of things being perfect - to my specs LOL - out of the gate.

 

[JP_Oracle]

@ORACLElights, are you going to make a short extension cable with the male/female connectors on the ends? How do we get one, or would you ship one to each of us who ordered the PNP harness?

Hey Adam,

Per my earlier post here, anyone having an issue making this work is more than welcomed to PM me with their order number and I will see to it you get an extension. We have these extensions rush ordered from our factory and should have them soon.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

@LowerSlower @GladiatorPilot @am1978 - Similar to the JL, the halogen model JT's in some cases will see the additional load from the reverse lights and shut down the circuit. This is easily remedied by swapping the reverse light bulbs in the tail light to LED bulbs.

That's sort of why I was wondering about people posting the trim level and which lights they had - LED, halogen, whatever.

 

[am1978]

That's sort of why I was wondering about people posting the trim level and which lights they had - LED, halogen, whatever.

Right, and my only concern is the tight passenger wire. Aside from that it was the easiest thing I put on my gladiator…except for my floor mats.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Right, and my only concern is the tight passenger wire. Aside from that it was the easiest thing I put on my gladiator…except for my floor mats.

You should work for the dealership where I bought my JT - they need a good floor mat installer.
I ordered it with the factory issue mats. If like other vehicles, the dealer actually puts them in final placement in the vehicle.
The fronts were fine, the rear is a two piece interlocking setup. They obviously have to cheat at jigsaw puzzles and buy them already put together as the rear mats were not properly interlocked. I thought - how hard can this be as I put them together properly myself in 2 minutes.

 

[am1978]

You should work for the dealership where I bought my JT - they need a good floor mat installer.
I ordered it with the factory issue mats. If like other vehicles, the dealer actually puts them in final placement in the vehicle.
The fronts were fine, the rear is a two piece interlocking setup. They obviously have to cheat at jigsaw puzzles and buy them already put together as the rear mats were not properly interlocked. I thought - how hard can this be as I put them together properly myself in 2 minutes.

Nah, I don’t work with unethical people.

 

[wrangler311]

Finally got mine installed today. Once I got them in and the harness connected (clicked together no issues) and tested, the lights come on once in reverse and then left light and the 2 oracle lights flash on and off every few seconds. After a few flashes they stop coming on and only the right factory reverse light comes on. Anyone had similar issue?

Per the recommendation from @JP_Oracle, thank you, I removed both reverse taillight bulbs and hooked up the harness. Tested the lights and they worked. Then put the bulbs back and tested again. All the lights stayed on. Hopefully I am good to go. Lights are super bright and will be wiring them up to work with a Aux switch as well.

 

[LowerSlower]

@LowerSlower @GladiatorPilot @am1978 - Similar to the JL, the halogen model JT's in some cases will see the additional load from the reverse lights and shut down the circuit. This is easily remedied by swapping the reverse light bulbs in the tail light to LED bulbs.

Ordered a pair of LED bulbs and swapped them in today. Everything seems to be good to go.

 

[txGlad]

Got my lights and harness in today, but ran into an issue. The lights work if I take the factory reverse light out of the taillight, but if I put it back in, it just flashes a couple of times and then shuts off the driver's side reverse light. Until I shut down the vehicle and start it back up then it just does it again. No codes on the dash. I did try switching it to LED tails with the Taser and no change. If I leave one of the Aux lights plugged in with the factory reverse light then I have no issue. On a plus note, I didn't have to modify the light to put them in.

Anybody had this happen, or got any ideas. Got dark so I only got to mess with it for a few minutes.

Yes,I have the exact same problem. Will take it apart again tonight to ensure the plugs a seated properly.

edit: Got in the truck to do the bulb removal fix and they were working. Now to zip tie them in place. Love the way they light up my neighbor's house across the alley.

 

[Harold0819]

Well I received mine right before the holiday weekend. I was away with my wife and finally got the chance to install them. I have to say after reading what others have said I was not too excited as I was not getting a warm fuzzy feeling that these were what they were sold to be.
Have to say I'm glad I didn't get too excited and I'm not one to blast a company publicly but these are a major fail. They are definitely the first and last item I'll ever buy from Oracle. I've had jeeps for years and always modified the hell out of them. But I personally am tired of companies selling a PNP item for a specific vehicle and not having it fit. There is NO excuse other than someone is sleeping in the QC department. I don't have my lights lit yet, from what I've seen with others they look good but I'm not even there yet. The PNP harness is a joke. Who the hell cuts the wires so close that they end up short? Mine are a good 10-12" short of reaching the passenger side, even when routed as 'directed'. Which isn't even as directed as it says nothing from the manufacturer as to where to run them. I'm going to end up having to use the T-connectors to run mine. If I had know it was junk and useless I never would of BOUGHT the harness. The harness also has a hard time plugging into my factory taillight. A hair to long or tight, don't know, but the amount of force I had to use to get it to clip was way excessive.
I've seen others complain about the fit. mine seem to fit. not perfectly square and lined up in the opening but close. Sorry to vent but very frustrated and tired of manufacturers putting out questionable products. None of them think of how valuable our time is so when there shortcomings effect that then it is beyond frustrating. What should of been an easy PNP modification is now going to be another item you buy and make it work on your vehicle. Very disappointed.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Why is that one wire going through a hole - left part of top pic? Mine didn't go through any lined hole like that.
My guess is a routing problem.

Behind left side tail light - exit the highest hole -

Arrow points to that hole, then down and immediately head to the right of the truck, do not pass through any other holes, straight over to the right -

This is the same wire still heading to the right side, still has not pass through any holes or panels, it's made no turns not even mild jogs -

It still has not passed through any holes at all, still going straight. And the pig tail from the right light goes STRAIGHT, it does not jog through ANY panel at all, it passes through nothing, no holes,
Your one pic appears to show the wire going through a hole with a plastic grommet. Don't pass through any panel or hole at all. Once the long lead exits the left tail light it home-runs to the right almost a perfectly straight path you could use a straight edge on. And the one from the light - do not run it through any holes at all, none, not through any grommets, etc.

I question this - it appears you are passing through a panel, through a hole with a plastic grommet........... I did not. If routed like I did, you should be only 1 to 2" short tops.

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