Axle widths

[SoK66]

They are not only narrower, the tubes are thinner. Wider axles on Mojave, Rubicon & 24 and later Willys Wrangler. I think 25 Willys JT has the wider axles, high flares and rear locker, too.

The standard axle width is essentially same as JK.

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[JTRDistraction]

I may be wrong, but I thought all of the diesel gladiators had the wide axles?

 

[Ding gus]

I went down the axle width rabbit hole a while back. Theres actually 4 different configurations. The three wider versions are as follows which include additional differences such as thickness and material.

• Jeep Gladiator Mojave:
  • Front axle width: 68.6 inches
  • Rear axle width: 68.6 inches
  • The Mojave has a wider axle setup to improve stability when traversing desert terrain at higher speeds, especially on sand dunes and uneven terrain.
• Jeep Gladiator Rubicon:
  • Front axle width: 67.9 inches
  • Rear axle width: 67.9 inches
  • The Rubicon has a slightly narrower axle width compared to the Mojave. This is intended to provide better maneuverability and performance in tighter, more technical off-road conditions like rock crawling and trails.
• Jeep Gladiator Max Tow:
  • Front axle width: 67.9 inches
  • Rear axle width: 69.3 inches
  • The Max Tow trim has the same front axle width as the Rubicon, but the rear axle is wider to support the increased towing capabilities. This wider rear axle provides greater strength and stability when towing heavy loads.

 

[479Sendit]

I went down the axle width rabbit hole a while back. Theres actually 4 different configurations. The three wider versions are as follows which include additional differences such as thickness and material.

• Jeep Gladiator Mojave:
  • Front axle width: 68.6 inches
  • Rear axle width: 68.6 inches
  • The Mojave has a wider axle setup to improve stability when traversing desert terrain at higher speeds, especially on sand dunes and uneven terrain.
• Jeep Gladiator Rubicon:
  • Front axle width: 67.9 inches
  • Rear axle width: 67.9 inches
  • The Rubicon has a slightly narrower axle width compared to the Mojave. This is intended to provide better maneuverability and performance in tighter, more technical off-road conditions like rock crawling and trails.
• Jeep Gladiator Max Tow:
  • Front axle width: 67.9 inches
  • Rear axle width: 69.3 inches
  • The Max Tow trim has the same front axle width as the Rubicon, but the rear axle is wider to support the increased towing capabilities. This wider rear axle provides greater strength and stability when towing heavy loads.

The one I have is the only one that isn't there. hahaha
I have the JT Willys sport S that does not have max tow or wide track

 

[Ding gus]

The one I have is the only one that isn't there. hahaha
I have the JT Willys sport S that does not have max tow or wide track

Here's a breakdown of what I found. These numbers are likely the housings only, the internals could be different depending on model even for the same housing.

1. Jeep Gladiator Mojave (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 HD (Heavy Duty) – Part Number: 68328596AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 HD – Part Number: 68328597AA

2. Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328594AA

3. Jeep Gladiator Max Tow (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 HD (Heavy Duty) – Part Number: 68328598AA

4. Jeep Gladiator Sport (Standard Axles):
Front Axle (Dana 44):Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle (Dana 44):Part Number: 68328594AA

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I went down the axle width rabbit hole a while back. Theres actually 4 different configurations. The three wider versions are as follows which include additional differences such as thickness and material.

• Jeep Gladiator Mojave:
  • Front axle width: 68.6 inches
  • Rear axle width: 68.6 inches
  • The Mojave has a wider axle setup to improve stability when traversing desert terrain at higher speeds, especially on sand dunes and uneven terrain.
• Jeep Gladiator Rubicon:
  • Front axle width: 67.9 inches
  • Rear axle width: 67.9 inches
  • The Rubicon has a slightly narrower axle width compared to the Mojave. This is intended to provide better maneuverability and performance in tighter, more technical off-road conditions like rock crawling and trails.
• Jeep Gladiator Max Tow:
  • Front axle width: 67.9 inches
  • Rear axle width: 69.3 inches
  • The Max Tow trim has the same front axle width as the Rubicon, but the rear axle is wider to support the increased towing capabilities. This wider rear axle provides greater strength and stability when towing heavy loads.

Here's a breakdown of what I found. These numbers are likely the housings only, the internals could be different depending on model even for the same housing.

1. Jeep Gladiator Mojave (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 HD (Heavy Duty) – Part Number: 68328596AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 HD – Part Number: 68328597AA

2. Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328594AA

3. Jeep Gladiator Max Tow (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 HD (Heavy Duty) – Part Number: 68328598AA

4. Jeep Gladiator Sport (Standard Axles):
Front Axle (Dana 44):Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle (Dana 44):Part Number: 68328594AA

This is the first I've heard of this many axle variations. Where did you get this info?

I tried looking up a few of the part #s you provided and couldn't find any of them.

 

[Ding gus]

This is the first I've heard of this many axle variations. Where did you get this info?

I tried looking up a few of the part #s you provided and couldn't find any of them.

I'm guessing those numbers are generalized by chatgpt which is what I used to get the info. There appears to be a significant more variations for the housing due to trans type and whatnot
https://store.mopar.com/search?search_str=gladiator+axle+housing

I tried to get GPT to fess up on the specific source for its data but the response was no soup for you.

 

[Minty JL]

Couldn’t agree more.
I learned this only yesterday. I had never heard there were two.
My source, however, is one of the designers for the current versions of the Metal Cloak suspension company so I have no doubt he knows what he’s talking about.
Kind of a drag. I bought the JT before I knew to verify axle width.

2 options, axle swap or get wheels with the desired offset/back spacing needed..........there is always a solution. I personally would look at some Dana 44s for the sake of strength over the Dana 30/35s.......you won't break an axle housing as quick if the intent is to wheel it.

 

[Panthers65]

This is the first I've heard of this many axle variations. Where did you get this info?

I tried looking up a few of the part #s you provided and couldn't find any of them.

my guess is there aren't that many actual axle variations. The Mojave has the same housing as the Rubicon and Max Tow, but it has aluminum knuckles vs the steel knuckles on the other Jeeps, which increase the track width slightly.

I can't confirm, but I'd venture to guess the housing itself is the same as the Rubicon/Max Tow. I was always under the impression there were only 2 variations, standard and wide.

Then again I didn't realize the rear Max Tow was that much different either, so I'm not sure where the extra width for that comes from, since i thought the housing was the same.

 

[Jaxmax]

Here's a breakdown of what I found. These numbers are likely the housings only, the internals could be different depending on model even for the same housing.

1. Jeep Gladiator Mojave (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 HD (Heavy Duty) – Part Number: 68328596AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 HD – Part Number: 68328597AA

2. Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328594AA

3. Jeep Gladiator Max Tow (Front and Rear Axles):
Front Axle: Dana 44 (Standard) – Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle: Dana 44 HD (Heavy Duty) – Part Number: 68328598AA

4. Jeep Gladiator Sport (Standard Axles):
Front Axle (Dana 44):Part Number: 68328595AA
Rear Axle (Dana 44):Part Number: 68328594AA

Wait a minute check your numbers for sport standard axle and Rubicon you are calling out same numbers , this is news to me I get that the Mojave has different numbers then the Rubicon because at some point it was stated the tubes were thicker, but I thought the Rubicon also got the thicker tubes that year or the next. Width of Mojave and Rubicon tread is different because Mojave has more offset by about 3/4” on each wheel, not a wider axle then Rubicon, supposedly to clear the larger shocks or upgraded mounts.
I think the Op started on the right track with buying a base model as he is going to forty’s and replacing most everything there anyway, and plans to swap sixties sometime in future , perhaps that time is now?….Jack

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

2 options, axle swap or get wheels with the desired offset/back spacing needed..........there is always a solution. I personally would look at some Dana 44s for the sake of strength over the Dana 30/35s.......you won't break an axle housing as quick if the intent is to wheel it.

He's already got Dana 44s, all JT's do

I do think with tires that big you'd want 60's though.

 

[Jteakus]

You will be close to half price of tons upgrading your current axles to "handle" 40's. Don't forget the loss of coin by needing 8-lug wheels later too. You can easily run a 37 with stock gearing and diesel torque. Not sure which lift Will spec'd for you but your Jeep won't look bad with the 3.5" or 4.5" and 37's. Run it like that with a cheaper wheel till you are ready to step up to tons, Also, D-trac isn't the only game in town, Have a look at Fusion https://fusion4x4.com/collections/jeep-gladiator-jt-2020-c37699195

 

[Jteakus]

At the risk of sounding blasphemous, not every Jeep needs 40's.
You may like it with a 3.5" and 37's.

 

[479Sendit]

At the risk of sounding blasphemous, not every Jeep needs 40's.
You may like it with a 3.5" and 37's.

I already have one of those

 

[Bjeepz]

What's with the double stabilizer setup on that front axle OP? If you're wheeling it to need 40's you might want to consider dumping that setup for a relocated single pass through stabilizer. Or just get 42's!

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