Constructive feedback requested - Used Gladiator Pricing

[DC3]

I hope I'm not opening a can of worms, but I seek constructive feedback on pricing my supercharged Gladiator. I realize questions like these can bring out snipers and trolls, but I hope those folks will hold back their comments.

I am selling my 2020 supercharged Gladiator; it has a 2022 motor and trans(swapped due to cam issues) and a host of other mild off-road & daily driver upgrades. I replaced the truck with a diesel Gladiator because it better fits my use case. I want to sell the truck for $55k, which seems reasonable, but I am biased.

I want to sell it more important than getting the right price because I don't need two Gladiators. I have included the link to the sale post and the upgrades for context. I decided to sell the Jeep before I realized the engine was a ticking time bomb, so I replaced the motor for the next owner with no expectation of recouping the investment. I share that to say I wouldn't sell something in a condition I wouldn't want to buy from someone else.

Thanks in advance for the feedback

A few questions:

1. Do you think the bumper and winch adds any value?
   1. If not, I'll swap them to my diesel and lower the price
2. Do you think the bronze/gold wheels and handles are too unique?
   1. If so, I'll remove the plastidip from the wheels and swap the handles
3. Other advice?

Sale Post Link

Mod/Maintenance list:

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[Chaos Theory]

Personally, the supercharger kills the value for me. I wouldn't worry about the winch, rims, etc-- they'll be valuable to some, and not valuable to others. If you want them on your diesel-- that should be the deciding factor vs what you think a potential buyer would value them.

With all the mods on this, you're probably only going to attract a Jeep enthusiast, who will appreciate them. So you're already likely limiting your market quite a bit. Ask for what you think it's worth, and drop from there. *shrugs*

 

[Barnaby’sdad]

How many miles are on it? If you included that somewhere, I’m missing it.

To a point, where Jeeps are concerned, things like bumpers and winches can be a good thing. The problem though is that someone might not like one or the other (I.e. I don’t like most aftermarket bumpers) and that might not help you sell it.

I’d ditch the bronze accents and anything else that’s going to be an “individualistic” touch. I.e. I’m picky when it comes to aftermarket wheels. 90%+ of the ones I see rolling around town look like crap to me and would be off putting if I were in the market for a used vehicle.

The supercharger is going to kill it for a lot of folks. Personally…I wouldn’t touch it with a 10’ pole and I doubt I’m the only one. You still need to disclose that it was on there and that’s going to be enough of an issue to some folks (again…myself included in that).

I’m funny with used car shopping. I know I’m not the only one that likes to modify vehicles, but doesn’t want to take on someone else’s aborted project.

You’re looking for a niche buyer. Wants a supercharged JT and has the resources to either pay cash for the whole vehicle or put $10K+ down on top of what the bank is going to want to lend them.

The ‘easy’ button is going to be to just list it as it sits and see what happens. If it doesn’t sell after you’ve lowered the price, I’d remove the supercharger, throw a set of stock whees on it, stock bumper, etc. and recoup some of your money by selling those items separately.

 

[guarnibl]

I’d part it out. You’re likely looking at less than a stock one value wise with the blower and history.

 

[Silverator]

The supercharger would kill it for me as well. Also, a 2020 with a replaced 2022 motor would leave me with a LOT of questions. Any jeep savvy buyer will have questions. The worst thing for a seller is a buyer with a lot of questions.

Your best bet might be to leave on the bling, and sell to a person who is more into "the look" than the actual vehicle. I'd try that first and see if I could get any takers. But a soon to be 5 y/o truck with replaced motor for $55k???

You can argue it both ways, but the bottom line is you will have to try it out and see if you can get some nibbles. Price seems high to me. I just bought a well equipped 2022 Rubicon for $49k + taxes and stuff.

After years and years and selling dozens of highly modded dirt bikes, the one constant is that you can't get the money for the aftermarket you installed. If it has a use for you (and for you it might as you bought another Gladiator), your best bet is to remove it and sell for a cheaper price.

Best of luck with the sale!

 

[bleda2002]

All the aftermarket stuff will add very little if any value, I'd swap the bumper and winch for sure and if you like the rims take them with you as well.

 

[Lunentucker]

I'll look at it as if I were an interested buyer, from my own methodology.
That's typically that I would pay for enhancements that I would like and employ and not for any that I might find to be either detrimental or neutral.

Your sticker price - $50,030
Plus 10% for value Inflation - +$5,000
Leather - +$500
Lift - +$2,000
Wheels and Tires - +$3,000
Gears - +$900
Adaptive Cruise - +$1,000
Bumper and Winch - + $1500
Sub Total - $64,200

Year Model Depreciation - -$12,000
Risky Business on a Supercharged Engine & Transmission that's had to be replaced - -$6,000
Total - $46,200

IF I were interested at all, my cash offer would be $45,000


I'm ignoring a lot of dollars in suspension and electronics upgrades that wouldn't interest me.

That's the best feedback I could offer you.

Advice: Strip it back to factory setup on the engine and tranny, load the factory tune, and sell the Supercharger separately for whatever you can.

You MAY find that one buyer who sees the value in what you've done with the build and pays closer to your ask, which is fair for what's there and matching the right buyer, but he's a needle.

 

[DC3]

I appreciate the feedback; seeing the world through other perspectives is helpful. I am surprised at all the comments leading to a reduced valuation due to the replaced engine. That suggests I would have done better selling with a bum factory engine. That seems like a perception-over-reality issue coming from folks who wouldn't seriously consider the vehicle in the first place. The comment isn't meant to be negative, but I'm trying to understand the basis of the perspective.

Perhaps the main takeaway here is that selling this Jeep requires finding a needle in a haystack buyer who is looking for just this thing. On top of that, one who knows the questions to ask.

Thanks for the feedback so far. I'll continue to explore the next best step for the Gladiator....

Jeep on!

 

[staying_tuned]

Kind of the wrong crowd to ask as most can read between the lines, or at least make reasonable assumptions. The primary assumption being that it’s a money pit that you scrambled to stabilize so you can move it. Mirroring the comment you made above, not trying to be negative, just shooting you straight. 55k seems astronomical for a vehicle that can’t be traded in, has zero warranty and has a 1 in what, maybe a 5,000 shot at another 50k miles given the blowerand notorious track record that comes with it? I have an EcoD, it doesn’t really suit anyone well, it’s just an incredibly fun variant that is torquey from the factory so I’d keep that detail out as well.

I wouldn’t expect more than 45k for it and even then folks will still try to beat you up on it.

We’re the cams replaced before you swapped the motor as indicated? I’d mention the motor swap but not line item the cam replacement, it’s too easy to pick apart.

 

[Hootbro]

That is always the problem with modified vehicles. Nobody but the owner who did the mods will appreciate them to their full extent. It is a good looking vehicle with tasteful mods but the Supercharged motor is the albatross hanging around it's neck.

I think @Lunentucker broke it down better than I could.

 

[TheDerb]

Ive been a car enthusiast for 25 years. I’m an ASE certified master technician, and the first thing I ever learned about cars? Don’t buy somebody else’s project.

The second thing? Dont trust anyone’s supercharger install.

There are so very many things you can do with a Wrangler or a Gladiator, and supercharging is almost funny how far down that list it is. There isn’t currently a supercharger that is universally trusted on the market, and I honestly would look at it as a good reason to subtract $5-$8k off asking price because it is 100% going to cost the buyer money while they wait for the engine to die prematurely.


Im not being a troll or a jerk. But that Supercharger is a fast track to vehicle inoperability. And the fact that you have swapped the engine is- simply put- a massive red flag.

If somebody came and asked me to do a mechanic’s opinion on that truck, I would say they shouldn’t buy it all. $55k is laughably high. You probably have a $30k truck at best if you have a buyer who is strangely forgiving of bad decisions.

Again, not being a troll or a jerk, but I have a sneaking suspicion that you are trying to pawn off your bad decisions on an unsuspecting buyer and that raises my suspicion to an 11.

 

[56cbr600rr]

It’s worth it to the right buyer. Those being the ones wanting to be a supercharged gladiator, which is probably far less than 1% of the gladiator population. Therefore, most people are scared of engine that has had a supercharger attached to it. Because of the unknown. I would un—supercharge it. Then sell the supercharge equipment separately and sell the gladiator for what it’s worth.

 

[Chaos Theory]

Out of curiosity, and kind of off topic but... For those saying it is not tradeable to a dealer, is that simply because of the supercharger or are some of the other mods also a deal breaker? I guess on mine I've not thought about trade-in value just yet, but how far is too far before a dealer says no?

 

[DC3]

Out of curiosity, and kind of off topic but... For those saying it is not tradeable to a dealer, is that simply because of the supercharger or are some of the other mods also a deal breaker? I guess on mine I've not thought about trade-in value just yet, but how far is too far before a dealer says no?

A local dealer offered me $39k as is with the supercharger. Thats an all-out purchase price without trading or purchasing another vehicle.

 

[sharpsicle]

A local dealer offered me $39k as is with the supercharger. Thats an all-out purchase price without trading or purchasing another vehicle.

Yeah, that sounds about right. They may even be considering taking the supercharger off after purchase and budgeting that into their offer so they can resell it rather than try and auction it off.

You may not like ASE techs (for whatever reason), but @TheDerb has a lot of truth in his post. I wouldn't dismiss it so easily and with such prejudice. Definitely not accusing you of anything with the install, but when you go to sell project cars like this, you either need to take a hit on the price or wait around forever for someone to really want your exact setup and willing to take on the risk with it. The supercharger is going to be a detractor on the truck. But, you can hold on to it and pepper the right sale boards and hope to seal a deal for the price you want eventually (but who knows how long that'll be).

This is what everyone who mods ends up realizing. You never, ever, get your mod money back, and often times it's easier to sell it when you revert to stock than try and keep stuff on. Majority of buyers won't even want what you put on it, and when it comes to engine modifications you probably will get hard passes regardless of price because of reliability issues and the fact that it's not easy to remove as a buyer (like rims or rails). Rims, rock rails, lifts are one thing. Significant engine mods on a second engine are something completely different. It is an albatross on the truck. If you can remove it, I would absolutely do that.

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