Finding a Selec-Trac In Stock?

[Lunentucker]

A Google search for:

new jeep gladiator for sale "4:1 Rock-Trac HD Full Time 4WD System" near Virginia

Turns up at least a couple of listings:

https://www.ourismancdjalexandria.c...-Jeep-Gladiator-RUBICON+4X4-1C6JJTBG6NL140726

https://www.starrmotorschryslerdodg...2022-Jeep-Gladiator-Rubicon-1C6JJTBG9NL101225

The first one lists both full time and part time in the description. LOL

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[Pliny]

The first one lists both full time and part time in the description. LOL

The full time is listed under options and on the window sticker:

https://www.ourismancdjalexandria.c...EANAAwADcAMgA2AA==&make=Jeep&dealerCode=41838

 

[Killroy Was Here]

The full time is listed under options and on the window sticker:

https://www.ourismancdjalexandria.com/api/vhcliaa/inventory/15397/window-sticker?sv=MQBDADYASgBKAFQAQgBHADYATgBMADEANAAwADcAMgA2AA==&make=Jeep&dealerCode=41838

Call me suspicious, but would only make the trip if they provided an actual picture of the shifter showing the 4Auto position on the knob.

 

[Lunentucker]

So are "Rock-Trac" and "Selec-Trac" the same thing?

 

[Rahkmalla]

Not available with a manual because reasons, so never an option for me.

 

[Rahkmalla]

So are "Rock-Trac" and "Selec-Trac" the same thing?

No, Rock Trac is Rubicon 4:1, Select Trac is every other trim 2.72:1. Both are available with or without 4A

When you say "looking for selec-trac" Everyone understands you mean Selec-Trac with full time 4wd. But being pedantic, all Select Trac mean by itself is "looking for non-rubicon"

 

[4-Play]

The Rock Trac 4:1 Full time was $695 on the window sticker for my 22 JTR. I bought it off the lot. I would definitely recommend it. 5 stars

 

[Rburns1776]

So are "Rock-Trac" and "Selec-Trac" the same thing?

The only Gladiator that gets the Rock Trac T-case is the Rubicon AFAIK. I'd definitely ask for a picture of the shifter based on those descriptions haha.

Rock trac is a 4:1 low gear ratio, Only the Rubi gets that. command trac is a 2.72:1 low range, all the other gladiators get this one.

Selec Trac IS the option for 4H Auto and is available for both Rock Trac and Command Trac T-cases.

Selec-trac is one of the options that drove me to ordering one vs. buying off the lot. I've never seen it on JT's in dealer inventory. Definitely worth it if you live in an area that gets snow and you're driving on semi sketchy asphalt, but not enough snow to warrant 4H/ Engage 4H without binding.

 

[Lunentucker]

Thanks all.
I'll consider getting a factory build quoted. My JTM is a bit of a Unicorn as it is, but I want ACC, cold weather, steel grey leather, and the Selec-Trac.
Hate to even think about trading after getting my truck so dialed in with the lift, steering, suspension, and the $5000 in aftermarket goodies that I basically got for free when I bought it.

No snow this winter so far. LOL
Maybe I'll order a new one in late summer.

 

[4-Play]

Thanks all.
I'll consider getting a factory build quoted. My JTM is a bit of a Unicorn as it is, but I want ACC, cold weather, steel grey leather, and the Selec-Trac.
Hate to even think about trading after getting my truck so dialed in with the lift, steering, suspension, and the $5000 in aftermarket goodies that I basically got for free when I bought it.

No snow this winter so far. LOL
Maybe I'll order a new one in late summer.

That is a good looking JT

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Ok...got ya...I guess shifting in and out of 4wd doesn't bother me but you have a good point...thanks

Was on my phone with my wife in the MRI thing and my fingers are screwed up so it was more haphazard a message than usual LOL.
Anyway, it's more like our Grand Cherokee was. I had to shift into 4H to get out of our driveway while my wife drove her GC right up and out onto the road without slipping a wheel. Now I can do the same.
I love my General Grabber A/Tx tires, wonderful winter tires, but here, the crazy storms and weather leave you never knowing what's around the next corner. It's hilly, windy roads, there will be clear roads then the wind comes up and you have drifts for 1/8 mile or so, or even ice (black ice) and just popping it into 4HAuto is fantastic. And for my wife it's a necessity - she moved from a Grand Cherokee Limited that never ever lost footing no matter what, to a Wrangler - no way she could remember what or when to shift, and with her handicap, it's problematic anyway.
I had a 2020 and that constant shifting, the jerking and jumping around corners, the parking lot experience of front wheels binding and locking and so on, it was just a mess. My Chevy had an "automatic transfer case" and you never had to mess with it. It would just go.
I missed that in my 2020 and it was so important for where we live, I traded last year for a 2022 with Selec-Trac.
When I was shopping for a Wrangler for my wife - I ignored all Jeeps that had only the part time transfer case. Even today, you don't know what's around the next corner. And Saturday we were surprised to find the roads covered with ice - what the heck? Oh, freezing rain. Geesh, that was a surprise, nothing was forecast.
You go along on a decent road and make a curve or go over a hill and hit a long drift, you appreciate what these can do. Even with my arthritis, this makes it a ton easier. Put it in 4H auto and leave it until everything is cleared and the wind dies down. It knows what to do. It's a more relaxing drive.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Thanks all.
I'll consider getting a factory build quoted. My JTM is a bit of a Unicorn as it is, but I want ACC, cold weather, steel grey leather, and the Selec-Trac.
Hate to even think about trading after getting my truck so dialed in with the lift, steering, suspension, and the $5000 in aftermarket goodies that I basically got for free when I bought it.

No snow this winter so far. LOL
Maybe I'll order a new one in late summer.

You are young. You've done it once, you can do it again. You can even learn from the first time and do it better if you want.

 

[ecidiego]

The first one lists both full time and part time in the description. LOL

Well, they CAN be both!! 4A: full time. 4H/4L: part time!

 

[dcmdon]

So...not having select trac makes the JT crappy in snow? I haven't had any issues in snow once in 4WD and using general grabber AT tires...maybe I'm just used to driving in those conditions for years. If you can...school me on why it's better.

Because if you actually drive in those conditions for any length of time you will find yourself in conditions where you are on dry pavement at one moment and then go around a corner into the shade and are on packed powder/ice the next moment.

In the middle of a storm, its no benefit. Because everyone will stick it in 4H.
But in the days after a storm, being able to drive around I 4HAuto is a big plus.

Can you get around in 2wd? Of course. Is having AWD better? Yes.

I'm sitting in my house in NH right now. My road is a dirt road so the plows can't get right down to the surface. So it is a sheet of ice with some snow mixed in.

When I turn off the town road onto a state road its dry pavement. You would be shifting in and out constantly and you would be forgetting to shift out until at some point you turned into a drive way and the 4wd system started binding. (ask me how I know)

With SelecTrac (or RocTrack if you have a Rubicon) you just put it into 4H Auto in November and leave it there until April.

It's certainly not a must-have, but it's absolutely definitely better.

With aaalllll that said, I do agree with your implication that the most important factor in getting around in snow and ice is experience.

The second most important factor is tires. The Nokian snow tires on my Jeep are far superior to the Falken and BFG AT tires I had on it previously. And those tires are far superior to the MT tires on my friend's Jeep.

My previous car on Michelin Arctic Ice winter tires got around in the snow better than my Jeep did until I put the Nokians on it.

 

[Chestnut]

I wish the selc-trac was an option for manual. If they tried harder they could make it work but there probably isn't any market demand, except for 2 weirdos on the jeep forum. I just like rowing my own too much.

The second most important factor is tires. The Nokian snow tires on my Jeep are far superior to the Falken and BFG AT tires I had on it previously. And those tires are far superior to the MT tires on my friend's Jeep.

I know people love their ATs and claim they are good on snow but there is just no comparison. I run General Grabber arctics and they are fantastic. I run winter tires because often in the winter i need to get somewhere no questions asked. With winter tires there is a peace of mid and confidance that is hard to explain unless you run them for a winter. With 32" of snow so far this year I've grabbed 4wd once out of need while ice fishing.
I'm interested in your experience with Nokian winters. I've ran most major snows at least once, firestone, blizzak, general, michelin. So far the Generals have had my vote for running with out studs. Studs were another level up yet, too bad they are illegal here.

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