Spicy Pumpkin
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Thank you for the detailed reply, that does make some sense with the limitations you've had on other ACC systems. I guess that means that I'll need to test the Gladiator's ACC pretty thoroughly on test drives.Spicy,
As far as The FCA blindspot monitors, my most recent experience was on a 2014 Ram Laramie. Awesome truck with a high end SUV quality ride and package. My other most recent experience was a 2022 Hyundai Tucson Hybrid. Driving in cold, slushy conditions, or during snow, they would ice over, and an error message would say something to the effect of blind spot monitors disabled. You could resolve the issue by pulling over and knocking/wiping the ice/slush off, but who wants to keep doing that every 10-20 minutes on a shitty winter road trip?
Also, the ACC would not work on the Hyundai with the front sensors iced over. It was not a purely optical system. The radar sensors in the front set the follow distance for the adaptive cruise control.
With regards to trailering or having a hitch mount bike rack, they beep at you until you disable them. NOT a deal breaker. Just wanted you to be aware.
I DO NOT miss them at all.
On a side note, I had adaptive cruise control, and lane centering on the Hyundai. It worked great, EXCEPT every time you pass an off ramp, it tries to pull you to center. CENTER. Not lane center, which ends up pointing you at the diverge point of the right line, and left off-ramp line. It can catch you off guard, and scare the shit out of you trying to correct for it. Once again, not sure on the FCA ACC, just making you aware. All tech has its glitches and limitations. I enjoyed it for long, boring, center lane cruises, but once again, it certainly has it's quirks.
Hope that helps your decision making.
You are looking at exactly my use case. We have a High Altitude diesel and we got a set of JLU Rubicon take-off wheels and tires for it. Those go on for winter and off road fun. I put the stock 20ā wheels and āminivanā tires back on in the summer for ride comfort, mileage, and noise.
We had the Rubi wheels and stock 33ā KO2ās on this spring for the Jeep Adventure Academy at the Badlands off-road park. I also added a hitch skid (that was very needed). The Gladiator in stock trim is extremely capable, far more than my skill level. There were people at the Academy with HA and Overland Wranglers with the same 20ā āminivan tiresā ours came with and they did just fine. Our Jeep with the KO2ās was much more sure footed.
The LSD rear/open front of the High Altitude was more than capable. In that particular situation I never felt āunder gunnedā by not having lockers or sway bar disconnect. If you are going to do hard core rock climbing the lockers would be valuable. For 90% Highway plus possible inclement weather/occasional off roading the LSD rear/open front is the way to go.
"Summer setup"
Ready to play in the dirt
Playing in the dirt
After playing in the dirt
The hitch skid
I should have clarified, I won't use a Gladiator for wheeling where lockers are needed because I don't want to use something that expensive.
What you describe as light to medium off-roading could easily be handled by a High Altitude with good AT tires as long as it doesn't get too muddy. If muddy, something more aggressive than an AT tire would still get you through quite a bit.
Here's mine with a 2.5" Clayton lift and 35" Goodyear Ultraterrains on stock wheels with 1.5" wheel spacers:
We did more than Iād classify as ālight off-roadingā at the Adventure Academy (that I highly recommend). Our HA handled it and begged for more. We were going over basketball sized rocks in the rock quarry (if not larger) and at one point down a 30 degree rock wall. A stock Gladiator is an extremely capable vehicle in any trim.
This is me driving down a steep frigging rock wall after climbing up the other side.
Thank y'all so much for sharing your experiences with the HA, especially with the photos and video! This is pretty much the extent that I can expect I'd be really off-roading, in addition to navigating bad weather such as heavy rains, snow and ice. It's looking like now I'll have to see if I can get any of the Jeep dealers with High Altitudes with the safety features I'm wanting are willing to budge on the price since the 2023 models are starting to come in (I know two dealers in particular have had their HA's sitting on their lots for at least four months).I shared your opinion, as well. I got the 3.0 high altitude for all of the convenience and comfort features. But once you get it the upgrades come easier than youād think. I put 35x11.5 on factory 20s, 2ā mopar lift, steel bumpers(after someone rear ended me), and a winch(because there was a hole in the bumper I had to fill). The only thing Iāve used the winch for is pulling stumps and I have yet to get my truck stuck with some pretty decent off roading.
Best upgrade was the eco diesel.
Really weird side question for you High Altitude drivers: is there any reasoning behind some of the Jeep Gladiator having white leather seating? I can't seem to find it as an option on the website and I pretty much only see it in High Altitude models.
I did really look into just ordering one from the factory but with current build times and supply chain issues I don't feel good about waiting 4+ months. If I'd moved faster on my financing this might have been a possibility but I'd like to be able to take something home immediately upon payment, and if I'm being totally honest I could live without the ACC and other features on the HA in favor of the more readily available Mojaves and Rubicons.Dealers up here (Ontario Canada) said would have to order a Jeep to get the options wanted. 5-6 months.
Started looking for a High Altitude too . Takes a lot of looking to find a well equipped Jeep. Bought a JLUR on a dealer's lot. Fully equipped.
Look hard; bet you'll find the Gladiator you want.
I've been thinking about this a lot over the weekend. I got to drive both a Mojave and a Rubicon, and surprisingly I preferred the ride experience of the Rubicon over the Mojave; maybe it's ignorant of me to have this position but while I liked the higher stance of the Mojave I wasn't a huge fan of the seemingly larger hood that obscured a bit of the road from my view...in contrast I liked that the Rubicon seemed to sit a bit lower, be slightly easier to see over the hood and that I could "feel" more of the road. The only issue now between those two particular Gladiators is that the Rubicon in question didn't have anywhere near as many extras (Auxiliary Switches, Cold Weather Group, LED Headlights) as the Mojave.I always say go with the Rubicon. Also, include Aux switches, LED light package and Tow package. If you look on this Forum many of the posts are Gladiator owners adding mods in effort to make their Gladiator as off-road capable as a Rubicon. Also, the Rubicon is more marketable (time to sale/value) when you get ready to sale or trade in. This is coming from a non Rubicon owner.
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