How To: Opt Out of Jeep Data Harvesting and sharing.

[Viper501]

https://www.wyff4.com/article/south...r-data-reveals-murdaughs-whereabouts/42959625

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[ShadowsPapa]

https://www.wyff4.com/article/south...r-data-reveals-murdaughs-whereabouts/42959625

Good use of it - catching killers or proving someone is innocent.

Works for me.

I'm all for it if it catches a killer or proves an innocent person is just that.

 

[TinMan2020]

Good use of it - catching killers or proving someone is innocent.

Works for me.

I'm all for it if it catches a killer or proves an innocent person is just that.

I feel like you would be all for it until it affects you in a way you don’t expect it to. Which will
Happen sooner or later.

As in maybe one day they will tell you judging by your age and the fact that the lane departure has initiated several times per mile that you aren’t uninsurable due to being high risk……. Even though that particular road you drive to work every day was painted by a hung over road crew that refused to pick up tree branches and dead animals first. Just painted around them.

I meant the first paragraph the second paragraph was a half a$$ joke.

 

[Mr._Bill]

Yes, I'm sure the 20 billion euro company that is receiving the information and selling it, complete with earnings reports and explicitly stating in multiple places that they sell information means they are not getting any information to sell. ?

It's one thing to not care about it, that's for each person to decide for themselves. To say it's not happening at all makes you look foolish, we know it's happening - you're arguing a point after stating you won't even look at the evidence. You're starting to cross the line from "denial" to "absurdity".

You have reached absurdity with your own responses, including the above response to my statement. I have never said data was not being collected, I have stated several times that I know it is being collected. I simply stated that the vehicle is not necessarily uploading all the data it is logging.

As I said before, I think you are a little tightly wound concerning this topic. I have nothing against you, but you seem to feel it necessary to attack me because I don't agree with you. I read some of your evidence, and a press release from Stellantis about future business plans is not proof that they are currently doing what it is being implied in this thread. In fact, I have included below the last paragraph of the their press release. They are either big liars, or this is not the big issue you are making it out to be.

Mobilisights and its partners will operate within a very strict data governance and privacy policy. This includes using anonymized and aggregated data, and only sharing personal data of customers with their consent and only for the specific services of their choosing. Customers also can opt out of information being collected, used or shared, even after they have given their consent.

 

[Sweetums]

Read the rest of the document, including the parts that say they build driver profiles (which are by definition not anonymous) and can change their "very strict" guidelines whenever they want.

Billions of dollars on the line and you're arguing the company with everything to gain by monetizing as many data points as possible policy of "trust me" is good enough.

 

[legacy_etu]

Yes, I'm sure the 20 billion euro company that is receiving the information and selling it, complete with earnings reports and explicitly stating in multiple places that they sell information means they are not getting any information to sell. ?

It's one thing to not care about it, that's for each person to decide for themselves. To say it's not happening at all makes you look foolish, we know it's happening - you're arguing a point after stating you won't even look at the evidence. You're starting to cross the line from "denial" to "absurdity".

Exactly.

I'm not here to debate , just wanted to say thanks for the info. Just went in to those sites and opted out of everything I could. Also called and cancelled my services. Whats a bit shocking is they mentioned that they saw two Jeeps associated with my name. My old JK (which my son now drives) was also involved in this. Jeesh

 

[ArchEtech]

I opted out. Maybe it’s something, maybe it’s nothing. I’d rather be excluded firm anything like this that I can be. I covered up my cabin camera in the Tesla.

 

[Biff Happy]

For any “conspiracy” worries, the largest purchaser of this data is the guv’ment as it allows free warrantless searches as lawyers have determined by checking “agree” for service use you’re okay with it, TMPS sensors and any other RF type devices are free game anyway, there was just an NPR show about this like 2 days ago. Kinda cool how we give our “valuable” data away for free and poor corporations make a profit, we should at least get a monthly check from everyone selling our data.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I feel like you would be all for it until it affects you in a way you don’t expect it to. Which will
Happen sooner or later.

As in maybe one day they will tell you judging by your age and the fact that the lane departure has initiated several times per mile that you aren’t uninsurable due to being high risk……. Even though that particular road you drive to work every day was painted by a hung over road crew that refused to pick up tree branches and dead animals first. Just painted around them.

I meant the first paragraph the second paragraph was a half a$$ joke.

Luckily lane departure doesn't exist on Wrangler or Gladiator LOL.
Seriously, around here, the hills, winding hilly curves and critters on the roads, it would think you were drunk.

I guess from your second paragraph, you've visited our area and seen those lines? (only partly kidding - they REALLY screwed up a major new intersection here, putting a white line in a totally wrong place causing confusion among OTR drivers and car drivers alike. I'm going to go take some pictures of it in the near future and send them off to the state and county boys and see who will take responsibility and fix it. it's actually DANGEROUS as they guide traffic merging onto that road right into oncoming traffic instead of their own lane.
I saw those new white lines and wondered to myself - WTF where they even thinking??

 

[ArchEtech]

My Rubicon has zero nanny sensors so I guess there is that!

 

[Sweetums]

Unless it's a TJ or earlier, I kind of doubt that. (goes out to the driveway to caress the TJUR)

 

[Jefe1018]

I didn't read the links, it's just more FUD being spread. Has anyone been able to confirm that Stellantis provides VIN encoded data?

The insurance rates here are affected by poor drivers, scams, and state laws. I've been using AAA Insurance for a long time, with no issues. The first big increase was last year, and it affected everyone statewide.

I'm glad you've only had one sir. We probably live within a 5 mile radius of each other and my insurance premium has gone from $1,100 for a 6-month period with $100/$300 on everything, $250 deductibles, $5k in medical payments, $40/day rentals, roadside and just about every other option to $1,860 for state minimums, $500 deductibles, no medical, no rental coverage, just roadside. I did the math, I think it ended up being something along the lines of a 60% drop in coverage for a 60% increase in premium and 100% profit.

We've also had 0 claims, tickets, etc.

 

[Jefe1018]

My Rubicon has zero nanny sensors so I guess there is that!

I'm the same boat... but the PCM's in these collect all sorts of data. How many times do you floor it? What's your average speed? How many times does your ABS activate for emergency braking? What's your top speed? What time of the day are you driving?

Insurance is a scam and they love to use these statistics to justify why you are more probable to get in a wreck based on your data compared to the drivers who did.

 

[Sweetums]

PCMs certainly datalog, but without cellular telemetry a tech has to have physical access to the unit - and that usually only happens after a crash.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

We've also had 0 claims, tickets, etc.

But you are in the same pool as crappy risky drivers.
That's one reason we opted for the program we're in - tired of paying high premiums just because too many drivers are risky, or just dangerous. Doesn't take too much driving around this area to see the morons reading, literally typing on their phones as they drift from left to right lanes, tailgaters zipping in and out where they might have 6" clearance between your front bumper and their rear bumper as they wedge in to get one car length ahead as if it's a contest.
tired of paying for those idiots. And that's the crap I see DAILY, or any time I go into town.

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