Jeep died and went into autopark right as I took off from gas station

[ShadowsPapa]

Autopark works the same with the doors off as well, provided you're not in 4LO.

The idea is to prevent it from not actually being in park and rolling away as you get out from a stopped vehicle. Sometimes things don't actually get fully into park - this makes sure you didn't miss or mess up.
And it's easier to do than the people who hate it want to admit. They are only thinking of their own small world, not the greater world of people out there.

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[Jteakus]

Autopark works the same with the doors off as well, provided you're not in 4LO.

Explain please?

 

[rharr]

It doesn't "slam" into park. It prevents it from moving if you come to a stop and don't have it in park then open the door and get out.
It's not rolling fast. You can drive down the highway and still jump out like a hollyweed stuntman if you want - it won't slam into park.

Odd, i guess our definition of slam is different. Mine will dump the trans into park and make some fun racket noises if I am not wearing a seatbelt and the vehicle is moving and I open the door.

This was done during early ownership when I didn't know much about the "feature" and tried opening the door while backing out once.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Odd, i guess our definition of slam is different. Mine will dump the trans into park and make some fun racket noises if I am not wearing a seatbelt and the vehicle is moving and I open the door.

This was done during early ownership when I didn't know much about the "feature" and tried opening the door while backing out once.

I guess I've never - not even in other vehicles - opened a door while the vehicle was moving more than a slow crawl that a baby could keep up with.
Even with farm equipment - backing wagons and barge boxes and so on - always used mirrors and if there was a cab, I never had opened a door while it was moving.
Just never had a need to.
(I have opened windows and leaned or looked out, but honestly have never opened a door on a combine, tractor, truck or car while it was moving.)

 

[rharr]

I guess I've never - not even in other vehicles - opened a door while the vehicle was moving more than a slow crawl that a baby could keep up with.
Even with farm equipment - backing wagons and barge boxes and so on - always used mirrors and if there was a cab, I never had opened a door while it was moving.
Just never had a need to.
(I have opened windows and leaned or looked out, but honestly have never opened a door on a combine, tractor, truck or car while it was moving.)

I guess everyone is different and some aren't as good as you.

 

[Maximus Gladius]

People keep going back to that one single case as if that is THE reason for it - yet roll-aways have been happening for many decades.
There have been many dozens of injuries and property loss accidents.
You can come up with a scenario for almost anything and while you might help 1 person what about the young woman run over by a run-away vehicle? Or the person driving along a highway and a car thought to be in park backs down a drive and onto the highway, totaling both cars? (it happened, I know the person who lost their car over it, and I wonder if the shop employee was fired?)

And people blame JEEP. This is not a Jeep only thing.
Ford also does this..
People think Jeep came up with this over that death - that may have been "the final straw" for Jeep/FCA, but it wasn't just because of that. Other companies had vehicles that rolled away, running over things, injuring kids playing in the driveway behind the car/truck and so on.

Please stop blaming Jeep or that one death. It's not Jeep, it wasn't that one incident. Many people have been injured by vehicles thought to be in park that were not.
Ford has a version, go check out a Bronco! (I think it's the Sport that has this same thing)
GM and Chevrolet as far as I know won't do this - I guess they don't care about kids and others being run over by vehicles left running but not in park.

I dig into this years ago and found a lot of cases being brought about because of a vehicle running unattended, or even shut off, and rolling away because they were not in park. It's really a common thing.

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[ShadowsPapa]

I guess everyone is different and some aren't as good as you.

Not necessarily better or good - I just do it differently. Apparently how I was taught or learned by observing or trying. It might not work out for everyone.
I got really good with practice at backing the farm equipment, and those wagons have steering of their own so you have to totally ignore the "turn left to make the trailer go right" bit as the tongue steers the front wheels.
I did have a big boo-boo while moving an auger - that was a very expensive and embarrassing mistake. Once those start to go - there's not a thing you can do about it. So no, totally not perfect and can't hold a candle to some. I get by, maybe.
I just do some things differently. Is it better?

 

[DylanM]

Explain please?

Autopark will engage in two different scenarios: 1) the engine is switched off while the transmission is not in park, or 2) the driver exits the vehicle while the engine is running and the transmission is not in park.

In either case, there are a number of conditions that must be present in order for Autopark to work. They include:
- vehicle is equipped with an automatic transmission (seems obvious, but clears up why this doesn't work with a stickshift)
- driver's door is ajar, or if the door is removed, the driver seat sensor detects the driver is not in the seat
- vehicle transmission is not in park
- vehicle speed is 1.2mph or less

For scenario 1, a further condition where the ignition is switched from Run to Off is required.
For scenario 2, two further conditions where the driver's seat belt is not buckled and the brake is not depressed are required for Autopark to engage.

If any of the listed conditions are not met, Autopark will not engage.

Autopark is automatically disabled when you shift the transfer case into 4LO.

In a nutshell, Autopark will still function as normal with the doors removed, but as in the case where the doors are installed, all required conditions must be present in order for it to engage. Fail to satisfy even one condition and Autopark will not engage.

 

[Jteakus]

I see.
If I exit the vehicle with my door off and Jeep in gear then I would WANT the trans to Autopark. Cracking a door to look at arms so I can center it on my lift, not so much'. I have learned to live with it though. Just go to neutral then back to gear and it will move.
Thank you for the clarification and thank you for your service to our country Sir.

 

[Stan H]

This^
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That guy had a bad day .

 

[DylanM]

@Jteakus
Glad to help and thank you. You can still open your door to see your lift arms without Autopark engaging if you buckle the driver's seatbelt.

 

[BlackRuby23]

Autopark will engage in two different scenarios: 1) the engine is switched off while the transmission is not in park, or 2) the driver exits the vehicle while the engine is running and the transmission is not in park.

In either case, there are a number of conditions that must be present in order for Autopark to work. They include:
- vehicle is equipped with an automatic transmission (seems obvious, but clears up why this doesn't work with a stickshift)
- driver's door is ajar, or if the door is removed, the driver seat sensor detects the driver is not in the seat
- vehicle transmission is not in park
- vehicle speed is 1.2mph or less

In my case, I suspect the engine died which prompted the vehicle to engage autopoark. I was barely moving so my speed was likely under the 1.2 mph threshold. Still, the door was not ajar and I was in the seat. I have driven the Jeep half a dozen times since and have not had an issue. Weird.

 

[Stan H]

In my case, I suspect the engine died which prompted the vehicle to engage autopoark. I was barely moving so my speed was likely under the 1.2 mph threshold. Still, the door was not ajar and I was in the seat. I have driven the Jeep half a dozen times since and have not had an issue. Weird.

The only time I ever stalled my jeep or that it died I was climbing up a super steep grade across a deep water break where I had to put one wheel in at a time was in the low side at minimal idle and was using the manual shift forgot I was in 3rd and it stalled.
It didn't engage auto park . I literally went to neutral and hit the start button and slapped it back in drive and of course it was back in 1st and I immediately went back to manual side and creeped across it then went to 2nd.
This incline was 20 degree plus with 9 of these water breaks . So I was getting cocky but it did not go into auto park.

 

[Blade1668]

I watched a vid with demo today because it has happened to me. Apparently if your seatbelt is buckled the Jeep cares not if the door is open. But if your belt is not on…

Not always!!! At least from my experience.

Autopark only works when the vehicle speed is very low (book spec says 1.2mph maximum). Any faster and the trans shifts into neutral and you get a "Vehicle Speed is Too High to Shift to P" error message on the dash. It's not the same as jamming your old 1980 Oldsmobile into park at 30mph when the brakes failed.

Well, can say from experience earlier this year the Auto Park will at higher speeds! Like when it decides to, when a battery fails at 55 mph zone on a highway in busy end of work day traffic. I got to deal with that, no power steering, brakes lights, ect, ect. Then throw in all dashboard flashing on and off wipers moving across windshield slowly. A definitely time I really wanted a manual transmission vehicle. Some of the safety features, bells and whistles are why a few who were members here and JL forums are not active anymore here, they moved on or back to older models. Along with one I known that wasn't on either forum. He traded off his JT and got a JLU then traded it off.
Yes many people do need "I'm a dumbass" and shouldn't be allowed to operate anything larger than a mini shopping cart in a bumper car track. Much of it is because of the same device I'm typing this on... a smartphone.

It doesn't "slam" into park. It prevents it from moving if you come to a stop and don't have it in park then open the door and get out.
It's not rolling fast. You can drive down the highway and still jump out like a hollyweed stuntman if you want - it won't slam into park.

Bill,
In some ways you are correct as it trying to destroy the transmission and parking pawl at 55 mph "hearing that ratcheting" isn't good. Especially while moving ripping off the cover plate to jerk the orange pull strap up.
Not trying to get a disagreement with you.
By the way sometimes of this reminds me of a discussion we had on a different threads a few years ago... start / stop and push button start and stop.
Not many cases I can think about jumping out from a moving vehicle either
Sorry on drifting of the thread.

 

[DylanM]

Well, can say from experience earlier this year the Auto Park will at higher speeds! Like when it decides to, when a battery fails at 55 mph zone on a highway in busy end of work day traffic. I got to deal with that, no power steering, brakes lights, ect, ect. Then throw in all dashboard flashing on and off wipers moving across windshield slowly.

All bets are off when you don't maintain the batteries in your smartphone on wheels. There's a big difference between how something is designed to work and what happens when the electronics go into freak out mode.

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