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[Jeeper44mag]

Reliability hasn't been an issue - but range could be better. The worst of it all is that with a Wrangler, you get a dinky 17 gallon tank for gas.
if planning a long drive, try to make sure there are gas stations within 300-350 miles, ignore their bogus 370 mile range - it's a joke unless you are on the flattest parts of Florida with 0 mph winds.
You might make it that far, but then if the next station if 50 miles away..............

2020 Stock JTR w/~35k miles. 3.6L gas, auto transmission, and a smart right foot.

Like an old trooper once told my brother after pulling him over for speeding... "Son, ya got ta get 'cher foot out 'ta carburetor. "

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[ShadowsPapa]

I'm not convinced you get the 4xe and how it works or what it's real purpose is. Think Prius in that you don't have to charge it, it charges itself off brakes and engine. If you want to charge it, you can but you can run it it's whole life with out and still get the full HP/tq out of it everywhere you go.

It's also not built for mpgs, It's built with the idea that the electric motors are power adders. Fuel economy is a distant like 3rd for the purpose of the 4xe, the jeep engineers designed the 4xe with the idea of getting power first and everything else 2nd or third. Electric range didn't really matter as long as they hit the minimum to get the credit so that's what they did and then they could advertise it as a decent around town option but really, it's all about that HP/tq.

No one should be buying a 4xe purely for fuel economy or electric range, those are just bonuses, instead it's like the Toyota hybrid trucks, it's hybrid for power and performance any other extras you get are just gravy on top.

Also the turbo 4 is more powerful and torquey than the 3.6, the 4xe never runs on just the 2.0, but if it did it would still be better than the 3.6 just more heat (hence why it didn't make it to the gladiator as they would hav e had to put a lower tow rating in the already cooling limited gladiator). I'm assuming the 2025 might bring the 3.6 hybrid to the gladiator instead to help with cooling. The Pacifica already uses the 3.6 and the electric motor is in the tranny which bolts up to both the 3.6 and the 2.0 so it shouldn't be too hard for jeep to figure this out.

With electric assisting the 3.6, it should pull a load with less cooling issues.
Since the main drive motor is in the front of the transmission with the clutch, in place of the torque converter, that part is a bolt-up. Remove the alternator since it's not needed........ etc.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

2020 Stock JTR w/~35k miles. 3.6L gas, auto transmission, and a smart right foot.

Like an old trooper once told my brother after pulling him over for speeding... "Son, ya got ta get 'cher foot out 'ta carburetor. "

True - but the 4xe is more like driving a hemi........ it's going to blow the 3.6 away in a race in the 1/8th mile. It's going to pull more, more easily. Just like those with the V8 engine, you won't get the same mpg, but you get the power of the V8 and then some.
For the right kind of owner/driver, the fact that the first 25 miles are electric in most cases, you cut fuel costs considerably.
My wife drove her JLU Rubicon 3 months on under 10 gallons of gas and ended up with about 49 mpg (then the miles on electric at a really low price)
Her first 25 miles are at $1.19 in the winter, and $1.79 in the summer. Can't drive any Jeep for that on gas or diesel.
And that thing has set you back in your set guts.

 

[legacy_etu]

Reliability hasn't been an issue - but range could be better. The worst of it all is that with a Wrangler, you get a dinky 17 gallon tank for gas.
if planning a long drive, try to make sure there are gas stations within 300-350 miles, ignore their bogus 370 mile range - it's a joke unless you are on the flattest parts of Florida with 0 mph winds.
You might make it that far, but then if the next station if 50 miles away..............

17 gallon tank is no bueno. Don't know what they were thinking.

 

[SPED1]

let me know when I can get a 6 speed Rubicon hard top in high velocity yellow for my 2020 6 speed sport with just over 60k in mileage.......... same loan lol!

 

[Alc]

It's a hybrid with an 8 year warranty on the battery not a pure ev. Even degraded capacity the battery will still hold more than enough charge to give you the HP and tq numbers until the battery actually fully dies which is more like 12-15 years if we go by current tech life span.

Oh man, I love your optimism on stellantis warranties. Soon we will be reading on this platform about Jeep not honoring the 4xe battery warranty because it’s lifted or has bigger tires or because it towed too much and that ultimately led to a shorter battery life (battery produced by Samsung so they are the ones that will ultimately decide). I’d love to read the fine print about what is not covered on these Jeep PHEV platforms. Here is one story of a dealer messing up https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/2021-rubicon-4xe-hybrid-battery-failure.102528/
There will always be horror stories of any/all units , but as mentioned above, it’s how Stellantis handles it that will make or break that complex platform. FCA will honor the warranty but it will have to be in their best interest, after all it’s about company survival and stockholders. Lastly, who in their right mind will want to buy a used 4xe where the battery can’t hold its full potential? But hey, estimated for battery pack replacement is only $12k + labor.

 

[saintpauljeff]

If they did a 4xe type Gladiator in reign, consider me traded.

this would be the only scenario where I'd consider an upgrade, otherwise I'll keep what I have for the long term

 

[Jeeper44mag]

Oh man, I love your optimism on stellantis warranties. Soon we will be reading on this platform about Jeep not honoring the 4xe battery warranty because it’s lifted or has bigger tires or because it towed too much and that ultimately led to a shorter battery life (battery produced by Samsung so they are the ones that will ultimately decide). I’d love to read the fine print about what is not covered on these Jeep PHEV platforms. Here is one story of a dealer messing up https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/2021-rubicon-4xe-hybrid-battery-failure.102528/
There will always be horror stories of any/all units , but as mentioned above, it’s how Stellantis handles it that will make or break that complex platform. FCA will honor the warranty but it will have to be in their best interest, after all it’s about company survival and stockholders. Lastly, who in their right mind will want to buy a used 4xe where the battery can’t hold its full potential? But hey, estimated for battery pack replacement is only $12k + labor.

Right! It might not hurt you too much if you only keep your new 4XE for 3-4 years and then trade it in for a new one before the batteries become an issue, but man... that upcoming ~$13-15k new battery expense is REALLY gonna put a damper on the sale or trade-in value of your 10-12 year old Jeep.

Luis

 

[Beowulf]

I know it is wishful thinking and others have said the same, but I really hope they are trying to clear out as much inventory as possible so they can release the Hurricane engine, or a 5.7 in the Gladitor.

I also hope I win powerball, but neither one will happen.

 

[Hootbro]

I also hope I win powerball, but neither one will happen.

You have better odds on winning the Powerball than getting a Hurricane engine in a Gladiator from the factory. Maybe if the Gladiator survives into the next redesign with the Wrangler in 2028.

 

[Geoarch]

Mojave X has SelecTrac full time 4wd, the standard Mojave has a part time 4wd.

Rubicon X has the RockTrac full time 4wd, standard Rubicon is only part time 4wd.

Prior to 2024, these were independent options, now they're only part of the X packages respectively.

On both, I don't see the upgraded battery and alternator with the switch group. Maybe the all come with that now.

 

[Hootbro]

On both, I don't see the upgraded battery and alternator with the switch group. Maybe the all come with that now.

They do come with it. Standard on 2024 Rubicon and Mojave models now.

 

[Geoarch]

They do come with it. Standard on 2024 Rubicon and Mojave models now.

Hmm. I'm so disappointed with my 22 JTR and the MT. I went online and built a JTR and JTR X and I can get the same options on a "plain" JTR with cloth seats and a black top. The Technology option on the plain JTR gives you the goodies that's on the JTR X as far as I can see. Have you compared them in detail?

 

[BourbonRunner]

On both, I don't see the upgraded battery and alternator with the switch group. Maybe the all come with that now.

Its included.

Although candidly the aux switches should have always been stand IMO on JTM and JTR.

 

[Hootbro]

Have you compared them in detail?

No, I have not deep dived the details of the 2024 models and changes other than passively reading what pretty much everybody else has seen in the automotive press and media releases from Jeep.

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