Terminus33
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I'm starting to thing something might actually be wrong with Hondas lol
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Jump starting Civics leads to depression
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Not sure if, or why, it would make a difference but the Civic Owner Manual in step 4 of the jump start instructions says to "Connect the other end of the second jumper cable to the engine mounting bolt as shown. Do not connect this jumper cable to any other part." This refers to the negative cable and the engine mount bolt on the passenger side. Maybe something with the computer?Let me begin by stating I know this is the wrong forum... I know this. But oddly enough, they won't let me join there with my Gladiator
something weird is happening to me. On Sunday, I'm with the family getting frozen yogurts when the lady in the car next to me asked if I could give her a jump. I hook everything up and nothing. I double check. Positive cable on positive terminal, negative on the frame. Again, nothing. I then move the negative cable to the negative terminal of the battery. again nothing. I let it sit to charge, nothing. I rev my engine... all this to say that her lights would come on, radio worked, but we couldn't get a sound from her starter. not even a click. I left defeated and sorry that I couldn't help.
Fast forward to this morning. I'm dropping my kid off at school and a teacher asked if I could jump start another parent whose car has stalled in the car drop off lane. yes, this is a habit, and the teachers know to look for me as I'm always ready to help.
Again, I hook everything up. this time I get a click, but nothing more. I repeat all the steps from Sunday. still nothing. I ask for the year. it's a 2016, just like Sunday. only major difference is this on didn't have the push to start button. I even touched my cables together to make sure they were working ... big spark.
in 4 days, I've come across two civics that I couldn't jumpstart. What is it about those cars that I'm not understanding? what else could it be. in both cases the cars had just been driven.
I have jumped dozens of other cars with my setup. my wife is telling me to let it go, but as someone who is always trying to help, this one is getting to me.
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you're only figuring this out now?
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idk why but that is correct per my experience
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Great point. I've never grounded to the frame, always to the block. It is possible that would make a difference.
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Can’t remember the last time a lady asked me for a jump.
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At least in the past, the frame is another ground strap away from the battery. Most systems go from battery to block, and battery to chassis/body, then body to frame (or battery to block, then block to frame)
The engine block is always the closest and best because it's directly grounded - it's where the alternator ground is so it has to be right and 0 voltage drop.
Honda may be different - but that engine block had better have a perfect ground straight back to the battery or regulation will be off/crappy.
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This is how I did it. Using the strut mount.
2016-2021 Honda Civic - Jump Start Dead Battery (youtube.com)
2016-2021 Honda Civic - Jump Start Dead Battery (youtube.com)
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Maybe it's just me, but that stud they connect to in that video looks to be painted or coated in something. Could explain why it would work for some but not others, as some might have more or less over the stud. Adds resistance.
I'd still go to the engine block, it's the most direct path to starter ground, and it's typically exposed metal (unlike body areas that can often be coated or painted).
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yeah in my experience that don't work
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Being fully aware that you are genuinely asking for assistance, and I have no meaningful assistance to offer, I have to throw out a fully sarcastic comment......
There was a story going around the internet about the person that locked their keys in the car, and called the auto club to come and assist. When they arrived they observed that the car in question was a convertible and the top was down.....
The correlation here? Perhaps those two Civics were a pair of those fancy new EVs and no amount of jump amperage in the world was going to make those boat anchors "start".....
Sorry, I fully accept all boos and other notes of derision... I just couldn't help myself.....
There was a story going around the internet about the person that locked their keys in the car, and called the auto club to come and assist. When they arrived they observed that the car in question was a convertible and the top was down.....
The correlation here? Perhaps those two Civics were a pair of those fancy new EVs and no amount of jump amperage in the world was going to make those boat anchors "start".....
Sorry, I fully accept all boos and other notes of derision... I just couldn't help myself.....
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Jump starting Civics leads to depression
At least it didn't lead to inflation.
Maybe we all need to pay attention in civics classes? or do they even teach that any more?
At least it didn't lead to inflation.
Maybe we all need to pay attention in civics classes? or do they even teach that any more?
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The batteries in question may have a dead short internal. No amount of charging will help. The plates inside a battery have a scale that builds up on them over time. If a piece of that scale falls off and contacts 2 plates at the same time. It may cause a short between them. Killing the battery. Most times the scale flakes off and falls to the bottom. The new AGM batteries hold this scale in place most times.
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