Leaking axle seal?

[ZSum73]

Well, that's what my dealer blamed my follow up leak on. They stated the parking brake shoes retained some of the fluid. I'm waiting on the new parking brake shoes to arrive. Once I go thru that repair I'll report back. Hopefully this is the end of this issue.

Did your leak stop now? After the residual from the parking brake? Dealer said my shoes were not contaminated nor the parking brake. My leak was slow and started at 200 miles with repair at 700 miles. I mentioned the brakes before they repaired it to check them. I called today they say wipe it and watch it for a bit that there could be some residual from repair and it's a messy job and some fluid may have squirted out when they slide the axle in..?‍

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[gpwrang33]

I wonder - could he have been talking about programming in the tire diameter - which you have likely already done?
When I asked my dealer about it a couple of months after I bought my JT and when I was putting the Rubicon A/T take-offs on it, they said yeah, they could do it and would be happy to reset things but told me I'd be better off buying a device to do it myself.

Yes I did program the new tires. It didn't sound like it was to update the program it sounded more like it was to update the VIN with the new tire size but I toned him out after him saying Mopar might not warranty the axle due to the larger tires.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yes I did program the new tires. It didn't sound like it was to update the program it sounded more like it was to update the VIN with the new tire size but I toned him out after him saying Mopar might not warranty the axle due to the larger tires.

That's just weird since they sell those tires for Gladiator and dealers install them on new Gladiators and even larger than that. Yeah, watch your back........... and I'd maybe save notes on all conversations and if necessary let JeepCares know what they said - what your tires came from, etc. CYA.

 

[wwcenturion]

Same here. Leaking right rear axle. 2500 miles. 2021 Sport S MT. Taking to dealer next week. Reported to NHTSA as well.

 

[NickHarder]

Just noticed mine leaking while doing a walk around at a gas station. Man this sucks; we’re just headed home towing a travel trailer and have about 2k more miles to go… gonna be heading to a local dealer in the morning to see on the off chance they have an axle in stock or can get one in a day! Fingers crossed! (Date of Mfg: 12/20, just crossed 10k miles)

 

[NickHarder]

Just noticed mine leaking while doing a walk around at a gas station. Man this sucks; we’re just headed home towing a travel trailer and have about 2k more miles to go… gonna be heading to a local dealer in the morning to see on the off chance they have an axle in stock or can get one in a day! Fingers crossed! (Date of Mfg: 12/20, just crossed 10k miles)

Dealership said they contacted Jeep and they said it’s on back order and no ETA. I have no option other than to limp home, stopping at a dealership every day to have them check and fill the diff fluid and I just hope it doesn’t leak enough that is seizes up on me, and that it doesn’t soak my brakes so I can’t stop. This is so unacceptable @JeepCares This is going to put me and my family in great risk trying to get home. Or I’m stranded 2k miles away.

 

[Hootbro]

Dealership said they contacted Jeep and they said it’s on back order and no ETA. I have no option other than to limp home, stopping at a dealership every day to have them check and fill the diff fluid and I just hope it doesn’t leak enough that is seizes up on me, and that it doesn’t soak my brakes so I can’t stop. This is so unacceptable @JeepCares This is going to put me and my family in great risk trying to get home. Or I’m stranded 2k miles away.

Like what kind of leak rate are we talking about here? Is it just staining or is there actually puddles of gear oil being left?

If just staining, you probably already have been running a few thousand miles with the condition already and a fluid level check and top up will probably get you by.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Dealership said they contacted Jeep and they said it’s on back order and no ETA. I have no option other than to limp home, stopping at a dealership every day to have them check and fill the diff fluid and I just hope it doesn’t leak enough that is seizes up on me, and that it doesn’t soak my brakes so I can’t stop. This is so unacceptable @JeepCares This is going to put me and my family in great risk trying to get home. Or I’m stranded 2k miles away.

Please read some of the other posts - unless it's actually dripping and leaving large spots on the pavement, there's no need to check the fluid level. 2 ounces of lube will make huge spots on concrete and won't even be missed in the differential.

Seriously, unless it's being slung by the tire/wheel and leaving large spots that shine on the floor under the truck - don't sweat it. In almost every instance these are minor and worst case is they soak the brake pads, etc.
You only need to worry when the spots left on the garage floor or parking lot exceed multiple square inches.

Take 2 ounces of lube and pour it on concrete and see how far it spreads after a while - that much would cover a square foot easily.

Luckily with ABS - it won't be as bad as one without ABS but still - they are obligated to replace all rear brake pads if there's any fluid on any of them at all.
The front does almost all of the braking, especially in heavy braking where the weight shifts forward but still - avoid situations if at all possible where you have to make emergency stops - in other words, stay back from other traffic, leave space.

Unless you see more than a drip on the shield, it won't be low on lube in that differential.

 

[JeepCares]

Same here. Leaking right rear axle. 2500 miles. 2021 Sport S MT. Taking to dealer next week. Reported to NHTSA as well.

Dealership said they contacted Jeep and they said it’s on back order and no ETA. I have no option other than to limp home, stopping at a dealership every day to have them check and fill the diff fluid and I just hope it doesn’t leak enough that is seizes up on me, and that it doesn’t soak my brakes so I can’t stop. This is so unacceptable @JeepCares This is going to put me and my family in great risk trying to get home. Or I’m stranded 2k miles away.

We'd be happy to assist you both further. Please separately private message our team with more details on your concerns and how your dealer appointment went so we can start.

Kate
Jeep Cares

 

[CPO]

I hope you went back to the dealer before coming here - letting them know right away, wasting no time in pointing out the issue.

They need to not simply replace parts -they need to troubleshoot and find the cause of the leak. Blindly replacing stuff is not troubleshooting.

I know this is the reason why jeep is having my seal ad axle shipped to them after it comes out. To determine cause or perhaps help narrow it down.

 

[CPO]

We’ll update on mine. Parts where supposed to be in on Thursday of last week. However ups lost em! A call to @JeepCares and the new one is being shipped with arrival on this Friday. Hopefully ups doesn’t steal this one! A Month with out it and getting worried it may be a while longer.

 

[AXG1040]

Axle replaced yesterday. Finger crossed. Jeep Cares helped expedite getting the second shaft. I was the one who got the iron pipe in the parts box last go around. Shop did a good job cleaning up the leak. Hoping this fixes it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Axle replaced yesterday. Finger crossed. Jeep Cares helped expedite getting the second shaft. I was the one who got the iron pipe in the parts box last go around. Shop did a good job cleaning up the leak. Hoping this fixes it.

Did you send the pipe back? I hear Jeep has a hydraulic system down in one of their plants and found some joker took a pipe out.

If you didn't send it back, I need a new cheater for my 3/4" breaker bar.

 

[AXG1040]

Did you send the pipe back? I hear Jeep has a hydraulic system down in one of their plants and found some joker took a pipe out.

If you didn't send it back, I need a new cheater for my 3/4" breaker bar.

Haha! Dealer sent it back and evidently it caused some sort of investigation. Right box and part number on outside…just a pipe inside. You know…it would have made an epic cheater bar with a story to go with it!

 

[Gladman]

Further info on this saga, and what a tale of woe this is.
The dealer ordered the axle shaft (more on this shaft later) and the box was delivered by UPS with axle shaft missing. UPS couldn’t find it so FCC ordered another dealer who had the only one in stock in Canada to sent the shaft to my dealer. UPS lost that package at the depot in Calgary, investigation ongoing. Dana is unable to supply the shaft until July 21st - July 30. My gladiator has been parked at the dealer since April 9th.

Now, the axle shaft. I was told the axle shaft in the truck is too short. So let’s take one out of a Rubicon on the lot. Nope, different arrangement. My High Altitude front axle has an approximately 12” stub shaft from the differential to a splined collar and then the main axle shaft to the wheel hub. It is this stub shaft that is too short and waiting for the correct length shaft. I don’t know if this is unique to the diesel with the 210M axle but definitely a Rubicon gasser does not have that arrangement. Possibly because the Rubi has lockers, not sure?

So, now another month will tick by.

Wow! Delivered my truck to the dealer for the front axle repair on April 8th an got it back yesterday. 19 Weeks Down!
Finally convinced them and FCA to change out the entire front axle and it was completed yesterday. Apparently FCA kept sending axle parts for a gas version of the 210M axle which is different than the diesel, so the complete axle assembly was the only way to get the correct parts. Freaking bizarre. Also, heads up to others, dealer service manager told me that this part number is no longer being made available and there were only 3 axle assemblies in stock in North America. Now there are only 2. Maybe.
The leaking RR seal got repaired at the same time.

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