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Decades of being a Jeeper. It's hard to believe a Jeep owner would steal from another.
It's a very sad world we now live in.
Not hard to believe at all... it might only be 1 in 100, but it only takes one.
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First things I added were spare lock, hood lock, locking gas cap, cable clip to prevent the tonneau cover release from being fished, and door locks. Every bit helps 😉
Good suggestions. Thanks!
 

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What spare lock did you get?
 

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Awesome, added to my Amazon cart. Thanks!
 

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You can pretty much defend your car in any state while on your property. Shoot the guy in the head...they have to proove you were not in fear of your life and that the slimjim he used to get in your car didnt look like a gun being aimed at you on your propery....Florida enjoys castle doctrine and stand your ground. He mayeven have gotten ahold of the weapon u keep in your car. Its a little different if he is already driving away and off your land. If he is still in your driveway and behind the wheel, how do you know he wasnt going to ram u after seeing you come out?
 

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You can pretty much defend your car in any state while on your property. Shoot the guy in the head...they have to proove you were not in fear of your life and that the slimjim he used to get in your car didnt look like a gun being aimed at you on your propery....Florida enjoys castle doctrine and stand your ground. He mayeven have gotten ahold of the weapon u keep in your car. Its a little different if he is already driving away and off your land. If he is still in your driveway and behind the wheel, how do you know he wasnt going to ram u after seeing you come out?
That’s not legally accurate in most states, especially in today’s political climate. The person who ultimately makes the decision whether to prosecute may be a politician- the local District Attorney. Are you really ready to make that bet with your freedom? I don’t trust politicians. This is not to say that you can’t protect yourself if you reasonably believe your life is in danger.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/self-defense-and-stand-your-ground.aspx
 
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Property is property. Not worth killing for and not worth getting killed for. And even if you think it's worth killing for, not worth the legal hassles. Most people hope nothing more from life than to make it through without hurting another human or being hurt by one. If one finds that one is not that sort of person, well, ok, but the aftermath of having to hurt someone in most situations is going to suck, even if it resolves OK.

In the yard or driveway, call the cops. In the house with your family present, cut their strings. Not your job to figure out their intentions if they come creeping when humans are in the building.

They knew when they came in someone was there, and they know they're potentially handing a legal right to their off switch to someone who has little sense of humor about the situation. They're ready to deal with that, come what may. Be certain you are too.

Outside of that....it's just a truck.
 

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They definitely don't drive a BWM...using turn signals and all...
Or a Porsche, because they have to cut someone off while blaring music too.
 

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That’s not legally accurate in most states, especially in today’s political climate. The person who ultimately makes the decision whether to prosecute may be a politician- the local District Attorney. Are you really ready to make that bet with your freedom? I don’t trust politicians. This is not to say that you can’t protect yourself if you reasonably believe your life is in danger.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/self-defense-and-stand-your-ground.aspx

That’s not legally accurate in most states, especially in today’s political climate. The person who ultimately makes the decision whether to prosecute may be a politician- the local District Attorney. Are you really ready to make that bet with your freedom? I don’t trust politicians. This is not to say that you can’t protect yourself if you reasonably believe your life is in danger.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/self-defense-and-stand-your-ground.aspx
Property is property. Not worth killing for and not worth getting killed for. And even if you think it's worth killing for, not worth the legal hassles. Most people hope nothing more from life than to make it through without hurting another human or being hurt by one. If one finds that one is not that sort of person, well, ok, but the aftermath of having to hurt someone in most situations is going to suck, even if it resolves OK.

In the yard or driveway, call the cops. In the house with your family present, cut their strings. Not your job to figure out their intentions if they come creeping when humans are in the building.

They knew when they came in someone was there, and they know they're potentially handing a legal right to their off switch to someone who has little sense of humor about the situation. They're ready to deal with that, come what may. Be certain you are too.

Outside of that....it's just a truck.
It may be just a truck, but it's mine and if you are on my property trying to take it or get inside to take something then you should of already weighed out the consequences in your mind. The penalty for that in my yard would be death or a trip to the hospital to have a bullet removed. Now if your sitting inside your vehicle and you decide to leave then ok, you made a wise choice, but if your already in the act then the consequences are on you. These times we live in have made people soft, that's why the thieving has went up.
 

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It may be just a truck, but it's mine and if you are on my property trying to take it or get inside to take something then you should of already weighed out the consequences in your mind. The penalty for that in my yard would be death or a trip to the hospital to have a bullet removed. Now if your sitting inside your vehicle and you decide to leave then ok, you made a wise choice, but if your already in the act then the consequences are on you. These times we live in have made people soft, that's why the thieving has went up.
it's not that people are soft... but decades of indoctrination and repeated attacks by those in power who cater to criminals have made it really clear that if you do take action to protect yourself, with the exception of a few jurisdictions who are actively protecting the citizen.

Texas with their laws protecting citizens from civil lawsuits in a lawful self-defense situation or Florida with the strong stand your ground/castle doctrine laws, and actual applications by District Attorneys to protect the citizen, made the message clear that criminals will not be catered to.

However, in other states like CA... especially in cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, the District Attorney will actively go after citizens while freeing the criminal and then the blood suckers descend upon the citizen suing for the poor hurt criminal who did nothing wrong. There was a case back in the day when a burglar broke a window and climbed inside and cut himself on the broken glass. The homeowner scared the burglar off. The burglar sued for injuries from the broken glass and won... and there are tons of other ones where the homeowner got in trouble for using a firearm or other weapon and even if cleared later of charges, still had to go through hell for the worries and expenses and time incurred in defending the charges... not to mention the headache of worrying about payback from the criminal and his friends if you do hurt the guy.

Now you balance that against the cost of a spare tire or some other parts... most people are going to say let them have it. It's not worth the trouble. Not saying I agree, but that's the reality of life in today's "civilized" world.
 

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Killing is as serious a business as a person can get involved with. As a consequence, the laws for self-defense are narrowly tailored.

Most states now have some version of castle doctrine, dispensing with any duty to retreat. Those "duties" are generally legally garbage anyway, since they all, as far as I know, have some modification or another that stipulate you only have the duty if you can do so in "absolute safety. "Safety" is in the eye of the person in jeopardy; hence the advice that should, God forbid, you have to shoot someone, the first and only words out of your mouth to the cops should be that you feared for your life.

If you're in one of those jurisdictions that still have the duty on the books you may have to deal with a prosecutor that feels like making you miserable. "Stand Your Ground" laws are a direct result of prosecutors in some areas dragging people through hell to make a point, even though a conviction would never happen. Legislatures back in the 80's-90's decided to start taking the charging decision out of the rogue prosecutor's hands with "Stand Your Ground."

Soft or not, if you shoot someone in your yard in NC that is not in some way imminently threatening your safety or that of another party you'll charged with a felony. Being "hard" is always an option. Be mindful that the hardest thing to come from the situation may be the time.

https://ncsheriffs.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/UPDATED_Concealed_Handgun_Permits_Publication.pdf
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