Loose Steering?

[ShadowsPapa]

There all about the same. Core, shipping, tax and Mopar electric power steering fluid (around $18 a pint) was about $650.

These are new and there's a core charge? If so - interesting...........
Core charge, or asking for a core return, is generally reserved for reman units in my experience

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[Scrubb84]

These are new and there's a core charge? If so - interesting...........
Core charge, or asking for a core return, is generally reserved for reman units in my experience

Maybe you just figured out the problem. Are they putting re-man steering boxes in our new Jeeps? I know I have some crazy ideas, but it fits.

 

[Hoss63]

Maybe you just figured out the problem. Are they putting re-man steering boxes in our new Jeeps? I know I have some crazy ideas, but it fits.

Even new parts there is core changes.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Even new parts there is core changes.

Not with anything else - this must be a mopar thing.
I've NEVER ever had to return a core or been charged for a core with a new part. It's NEW - there's no exchange, no reason to want the core back.
This must be Jeep or some weird MOPAR parts thing. I've never in my life bought new parts and been required to pay a core charge or return a part. Transmissions, starters, steering sectors, pumps, you name it - if it's new, no core.
They are selling you NEW parts - why would they need to charge for you keeping yours?
For remanufactured parts yes, it makes sense because they NEED your old part back to remanufacture again - otherwise they send out and get nothing back to rebuild so the core charge is incentive for you to send your part in for them - they take it apart and rebuild it.

I've worked in parts - never seen this before with NEW parts.
Buy a new torque converter - they don't ask for your part of charge you a core charge. Buy a NEW steering sector from anyone else - there's no core charge. I'm talking NEW, not reman.

 

[Scrubb84]

Not with anything else - this must be a mopar thing.
I've NEVER ever had to return a core or been charged for a core with a new part. It's NEW - there's no exchange, no reason to want the core back.
This must be Jeep or some weird MOPAR parts thing. I've never in my life bought new parts and been required to pay a core charge or return a part. Transmissions, starters, steering sectors, pumps, you name it - if it's new, no core.
They are selling you NEW parts - why would they need to charge for you keeping yours?
For remanufactured parts yes, it makes sense because they NEED your old part back to remanufacture again - otherwise they send out and get nothing back to rebuild so the core charge is incentive for you to send your part in for them - they take it apart and rebuild it.

I've worked in parts - never seen this before with NEW parts.
Buy a new torque converter - they don't ask for your part of charge you a core charge. Buy a NEW steering sector from anyone else - there's no core charge. I'm talking NEW, not reman.

Maybe its just that seller charging a “core charge”. As in, give us more money for a BS charge?
Either way there’s some BS floating around this issue.

 

[Hoss63]

Not with anything else - this must be a mopar thing.
I've NEVER ever had to return a core or been charged for a core with a new part. It's NEW - there's no exchange, no reason to want the core back.
This must be Jeep or some weird MOPAR parts thing. I've never in my life bought new parts and been required to pay a core charge or return a part. Transmissions, starters, steering sectors, pumps, you name it - if it's new, no core.
They are selling you NEW parts - why would they need to charge for you keeping yours?
For remanufactured parts yes, it makes sense because they NEED your old part back to remanufacture again - otherwise they send out and get nothing back to rebuild so the core charge is incentive for you to send your part in for them - they take it apart and rebuild it.

I've worked in parts - never seen this before with NEW parts.
Buy a new torque converter - they don't ask for your part of charge you a core charge. Buy a NEW steering sector from anyone else - there's no core charge. I'm talking NEW, not reman.

Company I work for now changes core

Not with anything else - this must be a mopar thing.
I've NEVER ever had to return a core or been charged for a core with a new part. It's NEW - there's no exchange, no reason to want the core back.
This must be Jeep or some weird MOPAR parts thing. I've never in my life bought new parts and been required to pay a core charge or return a part. Transmissions, starters, steering sectors, pumps, you name it - if it's new, no core.
They are selling you NEW parts - why would they need to charge for you keeping yours?
For remanufactured parts yes, it makes sense because they NEED your old part back to remanufacture again - otherwise they send out and get nothing back to rebuild so the core charge is incentive for you to send your part in for them - they take it apart and rebuild it.

I've worked in parts - never seen this before with NEW parts.
Buy a new torque converter - they don't ask for your part of charge you a core charge. Buy a NEW steering sector from anyone else - there's no core charge. I'm talking NEW, not reman.

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Not with anything else - this must be a mopar thing.
I've NEVER ever had to return a core or been charged for a core with a new part. It's NEW - there's no exchange, no reason to want the core back.
This must be Jeep or some weird MOPAR parts thing. I've never in my life bought new parts and been required to pay a core charge or return a part. Transmissions, starters, steering sectors, pumps, you name it - if it's new, no core.
They are selling you NEW parts - why would they need to charge for you keeping yours?
For remanufactured parts yes, it makes sense because they NEED your old part back to remanufacture again - otherwise they send out and get nothing back to rebuild so the core charge is incentive for you to send your part in for them - they take it apart and rebuild it.

I've worked in parts - never seen this before with NEW parts.
Buy a new torque converter - they don't ask for your part of charge you a core charge. Buy a NEW steering sector from anyone else - there's no core charge. I'm talking NEW, not reman.

Maybe its just that seller charging a “core charge”. As in, give us more money for a BS charge?

sometimes with new parts release they want cores back to see where parts are failing.

 

[Hoss63]

Company I work for now changes core

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sometimes with new parts release they want cores back to see where parts are failing.

Sorry about post. Phone is skipping around post as I’m typing

 

[ShadowsPapa]

First time I go in and buy a NEW part and they try to stick on a core charge - there's going to be more than just a fuss. Been in the industry too long to let them pull something to get money.
If it's a new part - not a remanufactured part, but a new part that's never been used or rebuilt I get to keep the old part.
IF it's a part being replaced under warranty - sure, they'll want the old part back. That's common practice on larger items. Smaller things - they don't typically want them back unless they see a systemic failure.
Warranty is one thing - but if they are simply selling an item off the shelf that is new - there shouldn't be a core charge.

A core charge is to get your part back in their hands. There's not a reason for that if they are selling new parts and not reman parts.
I often buy new - two reasons -
I refuse to use remanufactured parts of some types - I refuse any reman starters, alternators, carburetors, that sort of thing. I absolutely refuse them, and,
I sometimes I want to KEEP the old part to rebuild myself. Spare, or to rebuild and resell later as a repaired part. (it's one of the things I do)

 

[Factoid]

It’s all about what bucket they put the charge in, but in the end it is all the same. Would you pay $800 for a new steering box? What if they then said we also sell remanufactured boxes and will give you $150 for your old box? Or what if they said, “sell us your used parts!” $150 for a used steering box. There is no difference between that and saying $650 for a new box, plus $150 core charge except in your attitude.

 

[Slalom]

Installed my new gear box I ordered from Mopar parts online (tired of dealer not wanting to do anything saying nothing wrong and wanting to charge me as I have a lift) made a big difference on the dead spot in steering, more enjoyable to drive.

So how difficult was it installing it yourself, bleeding the lines, removing pitman arm? Also, curious did it remove every bit of the loose steering at center?

 

[Hoss63]

So how difficult was it installing it yourself, bleeding the lines, removing pitman arm? Also, curious did it remove every bit of the loose steering at center?

took a couple of hours to change out, pitman arm came off with two jaw (Had regular pitman arm puller on standby buddy has one if it was to hard) went through 1.5 pints of Mopar's special fluid bleed out easy. Didn't remove all the loose feeling but about 75%. I do have a 2 1/2 inch lift and 35 inch tires which gives me so loose feel.

 

[Slalom]

took a couple of hours to change out, pitman arm came off with two jaw (Had regular pitman arm puller on standby buddy has one if it was to hard) went through 1.5 pints of Mopar's special fluid bleed out easy. Didn't remove all the loose feeling but about 75%. I do have a 2 1/2 inch lift and 35 inch tires which gives me so loose feel.

That's awesome. Appreciate it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It’s all about what bucket they put the charge in, but in the end it is all the same. Would you pay $800 for a new steering box? What if they then said we also sell remanufactured boxes and will give you $150 for your old box? Or what if they said, “sell us your used parts!” $150 for a used steering box. There is no difference between that and saying $650 for a new box, plus $150 core charge except in your attitude.

All I'm saying is that core charges are for reman parts - and over 45 years I've never seen nor paid a core charge for a NEW part because it's new.
All I can figure in this case is that the part is brand new, VERY new, there is no stock of parts to base a remanufactured part off of and they are trying to get used parts in so they can start remanufacturing them.
Otherwise for new parts there is no need nor basis for a core charge.
I have to assume this is a part that is so very new and they are needing to get used unit in hand to start the process of remanufacturing.
Maybe it's like me buying up cores for Prestolite wiper motors, or giving money for Eagle front hub assemblies as I sell restored parts
In the case of the front hubs - I won't sell any without getting others in hand because I have only 2 pair on the shelf at any given time.

If I were to buy one of these steering sectors, it would be the very first time of the thousands of parts I've bought over the decades where there was a "core charge" involved.
Chances are that in 2 years there will be no such charge on NEW steering sectors.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

took a couple of hours to change out, pitman arm came off with two jaw (Had regular pitman arm puller on standby buddy has one if it was to hard) went through 1.5 pints of Mopar's special fluid bleed out easy. Didn't remove all the loose feeling but about 75%. I do have a 2 1/2 inch lift and 35 inch tires which gives me so loose feel.

Have you considered the Synergy brace?

 

[Hoss63]

Have you considered the Synergy brace?

Put one on before I changed the box to see if would help.

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