My 2022 Gladiator burned down... how?

[sharpsicle]

I understand what you’re saying in regards to them admitting there’s an issue, however, they denied this to our insurance company as well which in the big picture if things, may creates a bigger problem. My Jeep hadn’t been touched as far as any modifications and/or upgrades. We bought it brand new and took amazing care of it. This now makes 10 vehicles that have been reported. That’s a lot as far as I’m concerned! I know there are always exceptions, but for the most part, it’s pretty uncommon for a vehicle to spontaneously combust while just sitting there.

Why would they admit something like that to an insurance company, but not you? I don’t think you fully understand how these things work. Plus, there’s nothing for Jeep to admit. Do you think every time somebody makes a claim, the manufacturer provides a list of every single instance that might possibly be similar?

I’m really not sure what your expectation is here.

I completely understand that you’re upset and trying to lay the blame somewhere, but you’re really fishing for something here. Things happen, that’s the way life goes, and that’s why you have insurance.

If you really feel that strongly about it, you should start a suit against them. You’re gonna need some good evidence for that though.

In the meantime, they will investigate this very tiny percentage of reports. They release a report with as many facts as they can find. But based on the preliminary information, it’s already pretty obvious that these are one off events with a variety of factors at play.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Why would they admit something like that to an insurance company, but not you? I don’t think you fully understand how these things work. Plus, there’s nothing for Jeep to admit. Do you think every time somebody makes a claim, the manufacturer provides a list of every single instance that might possibly be similar?

I’m really not sure what your expectation is here.

I completely understand that you’re upset and trying to lay the blame somewhere, but you’re really fishing for something here. Things happen, that’s the way life goes, and that’s why you have insurance.

If you really feel that strongly about it, you should start a suit against them. You’re gonna need some good evidence for that though.

In the meantime, they will investigate this very tiny percentage of reports. They release a report with as many facts as they can find. But based on the preliminary information, it’s already pretty obvious that these are one off events with a variety of factors at play.

You beat me to it - "admitting" to an insurance company is the same thing as admitting it to the NYT or WaPo. An insurance company is ordinary people like you or me - and many actually use 3rd party companies for certain things. Found that out when Dad was killed by a sleeping young guy - we argued back and forth on the value of his truck, only to find they used another company to establish value for payouts. Took almost a month, and multiple times sending them copies of the window sticker, pics of the truck AND of the odometer and his recent dealership work orders (to prove mileage - they thought my 85 year old father drove over 100,000 miles in 3 months HAHAHAHA - his truck was 8 years old and only had about 35 thousand - not 135,000. They didn't see the DECIMAL point on that 2010 odo. So things had to go through a lot of layers, and any one of those people, if this was a Jeep fire thing, could have contacted any online blog to get their 15 minutes of fame and blab about all of it.
An insurance company is ordinary people - they just happen to wear suits and work for an insurance company. They still chatter.

 

[JW Jeep]

Also none are burning up on the dealers lots or in their shops ? I’m sure their are some dealers that wouldn’t mind if a few disappeared or burned with all the inventory of over manufactured vehicles ( only kidding on this point ). There is a lot of questions on fires though ? When I worked for ford about 20 years ago I got demonstrators as part of the job Every year or less. I actually got to order them the way I wanted them. Even got the gas and dealer plates included. we’ll long story short I helped a friend move and a folded up card board box some how got stuck between back of cab and box. We couldn’t get it out so every time I washed the truck I would get a piece out. There wasn’t much left but one day driving down the road it caught fire and scared the crap out of me. I made it too my house and put the fire out. That small piece of card board did quite a bit of damage and it was right above the gas line , real scary !! It melted the inside trim of the back of cab ( super cab ). We had to replace inside cab rear trim , carpet, repaint back of cab, replace rear sliding window, remove box and replace front of box panel and repaint, new bed liner, wiring & loom and new high pressure fuel line. Sorry such a long story but it doesn’t take much too start a fire, even a small piece of card board. Lesson learned !!

Just to clarify on my earlier post the high pressure gas line never burned all the way through. It was damaged though and I would say very close to bursting While going down the road If it did I probably wouldn’t be here today. To this day I don’t know why it burned so much ? Paint , plastic ? Vacuum from moving ? Angels protected that day and many more !!

 

[Hootbro]

Vehicle fires have always been a Catch-22 situation. The fire itself destroys a lot of the evidence and once you accept your insurance payout, the vehicle is no longer yours and is the insurance company's problem to try and subrogate the claim. Then it is a civil issue to recover any expenses or gaps not covered to make one whole.

 

[samstewart]

It's a bit of a puzzle - or is it really?
Yes, there's battery power to the cable, and connectors, leading to the PS electric pump, however, no power is being drawn when it's off. It's like shutting off the light switch in your house - the hot wire to your ceiling light can't overheat and burn because even though it's "hot", electric-wise, there's no load being pulled through it to heat the wire.
So, that leaves damage over time, such as scuffing, scraping, or heat of exhaust, damaging insulation to the point that the then bare wire touches a ground, heats things up and starts a fire. The fuse in the high current fuse array should blow - but, is it properly sized for the wire and load? Does that PS pump REALLY actually draw 100 amps to require a 125 amp fuse there? Is the wire large enough, and fuse matched to the wire size and EHPS pump load?
There's also often higher temperatures around the engine and exhaust after shut-down as the heat in the core of the engine makes its way out, no longer being removed by the cooling system. They need to look at that............ how much heat are those wires exposed to after a hard run and then shutdown.

"spontaneous combustion" isn't a thing of magic or mystery - there's a reason things burn.

I have no idea what caused the fire, I’m not the expert here, but you raise some good points! Spontaneous combustion is the term I used because that’s basically what happened! It absolutely did spontaneously combust!

 

[samstewart]

Why would they admit something like that to an insurance company, but not you? I don’t think you fully understand how these things work. Plus, there’s nothing for Jeep to admit. Do you think every time somebody makes a claim, the manufacturer provides a list of every single instance that might possibly be similar?

I’m really not sure what your expectation is here.

I completely understand that you’re upset and trying to lay the blame somewhere, but you’re really fishing for something here. Things happen, that’s the way life goes, and that’s why you have insurance.

If you really feel that strongly about it, you should start a suit against them. You’re gonna need some good evidence for that though.

In the meantime, they will investigate this very tiny percentage of reports. They release a report with as many facts as they can find. But based on the preliminary information, it’s already pretty obvious that these are one off events with a variety of factors at play.

I don’t think you fully understand my purpose of sharing what happened. If this happened to someone else, let’s say 9 other people for that matter, I would want to know! I would probably not want to park my jeep in the garage until there was more clarity into the whole situation. I actually do understand how these things work, thank you! As for what my expectations are, I am hoping to raise some awareness. Why all the negativity here, just wondering??! And yes, I’m really pissed off that this happened and you bet your ass Jeep should absolutely be held liable if there is a manufacturing issue! That’s why there is already a discussion regarding a class action lawsuit. As for insurance coverage, that’s a whole other issue. I’m not fishing for anything btw…. Let’s just hope you don’t ever gave a “one off” situation because I can guarantee your attitude of “life goes on” would change in a heartbeat! Love the preaching until it happens to you!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Let’s just hope you don’t ever gave a “one off” situation because I can guarantee your attitude of “life goes on” would change in a heartbeat! Love the preaching until it happens to you!

Life DOES go on. Even if mine burned to the ground tomorrow - I'd be thinking more of those people SE of us who have NOTHING at all - no home, no water (that you can drink), no gas, no services.
There is always someone worse off than yourself. As long as there's life, there's a chance things can get better.
Do I get upset, even angry? Sure. But.............. I think of other people, other situations, and after a while, move on and forget all about it.

 

[sharpsicle]

…. Let’s just hope you don’t ever gave a “one off” situation because I can guarantee your attitude of “life goes on” would change in a heartbeat! Love the preaching until it happens to you!

You must've missed where I've had vehicle fires myself? Where I, my wife, and dog barely made it out before being barbequed? I started out soft and sympathetic but the longer this goes on, the more blunt I'll become.

You know what, nevermind. Your only purpose in joining this forum was to stir shit. There's no class action on this, hell there's not even a completed investigation yet. Until that happens, this is a nothing-burger of assumptions and wild theories.

I don't have a problem with sharing stories and experiences. But don't take people idly spit-balling things on a forum as proof of a design flaw and spread it like fact.

 

[Gvsukids]

Why are we so caught up in something that can be replaced? Well, unless you had a manual or diesel...

 

[GeneralMaximus]

Why are we so caught up in something that can be replaced? Well, unless you had a manual or diesel...

because it would suck to wake up to half your house on fire because the gladiator spontaneously ignited inside the garage

 

[Gvsukids]

because it would suck to wake up to half your house on fire because the gladiator spontaneously ignited inside the garage

Have any caught fire in a garage?

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