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Not here, so someone would have to read the other thread to see that. Enterprise will pick you up...
not feasible, I just think it’s funny that there are a few on here bragging about how great their Mojave rides when it’s not a smooth ride.
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The bent frame that Mojave's are factory equipped with adds to a unibody like suspension feel, very soft and supple. Extra flex.
 

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Maybe it's the 41 psi of air in those tires..............
I guess I'll have to go to a dealer and see if I can test drive a Mojave. I've had my Overland 2 1/2 years with both the stock springs/suspension and with rubicon and max tow springs under it so I could compare easily but it takes more than just one test drive to say how a vehicle really rides. I didn't realize how cushy my Overland rode with the original springs and shocks until I had owned it for a while.
 

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Maybe it's the 41 psi of air in those tires..............
I guess I'll have to go to a dealer and see if I can test drive a Mojave. I've had my Overland 2 1/2 years with both the stock springs/suspension and with rubicon and max tow springs under it so I could compare easily but it takes more than just one test drive to say how a vehicle really rides. I didn't realize how cushy my Overland rode with the original springs and shocks until I had owned it for a while.
You should, you’ll see
 

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Maybe it's the 41 psi of air in those tires..............
I guess I'll have to go to a dealer and see if I can test drive a Mojave. I've had my Overland 2 1/2 years with both the stock springs/suspension and with rubicon and max tow springs under it so I could compare easily but it takes more than just one test drive to say how a vehicle really rides. I didn't realize how cushy my Overland rode with the original springs and shocks until I had owned it for a while.
And when you do, make sure to revive a year and a half old thread about it.
 

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And when you do, make sure to revive a year and a half old thread about it.
Or even better, start a new thread about it, comparing the two?
 

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I drove a Willys, Overland, Mojave and Rubicon.

I wanted something that felt well sorted out, not just soft.

1) Willys felt stiff and loud with its MT tires.
2) Overland felt comfortable but soft. Though it was definitely quieter. I suspect its the street oriented tires.
3) Rubicon felt sloppy.
4) Mojave felt like it had good suspension compliance with decent body control.

I had no interest in the Willys even from the beginning because part of the deal with my wife was that I load it up so its comfy for her and many of the options I wanted could only be had in the Overland, Rubicon, and Mojave.

An example of the sorted feeling of the Mojave was that on an entrance ramp I tested on, the back end of all the trucks except for the Mojave stepped out on a certain expansion joint. Then that area is followed by kind of a rolling whoop onto the highway. Again, the Mojave stopped the body motion after one cycle. The others didn't.

For me the Mojave hood was actually a negative. Steel vs Aluminum. Though now that I've seen the problems with paint bubbling on aluminum hoods, I wonder if I might have dodged a bullet.
 

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I drove a Willys, Overland, Mojave and Rubicon.

I wanted something that felt well sorted out, not just soft.

1) Willys felt stiff and loud with its MT tires.
2) Overland felt comfortable but soft. Though it was definitely quieter. I suspect its the street oriented tires.
3) Rubicon felt sloppy.
4) Mojave felt like it had good suspension compliance with decent body control.

I had no interest in the Willys even from the beginning because part of the deal with my wife was that I load it up so its comfy for her and many of the options I wanted could only be had in the Overland, Rubicon, and Mojave.

An example of the sorted feeling of the Mojave was that on an entrance ramp I tested on, the back end of all the trucks except for the Mojave stepped out on a certain expansion joint. Then that area is followed by kind of a rolling whoop onto the highway. Again, the Mojave stopped the body motion after one cycle. The others didn't.

For me the Mojave hood was actually a negative. Steel vs Aluminum. Though now that I've seen the problems with paint bubbling on aluminum hoods, I wonder if I might have dodged a bullet.
The paint issue seems to be a really small percentage (amplified by the internet)
No paint issues on mine at all.
Mine actually has more "bounce" with the fox shocks, the OVerland ride was soft but it didn't bounce more than once. It was down then up, or up then down. The fox shocks with the other springs make it go up and down at least 2 cycles now instead of one.
The ride of the Mojave makes sense to me - rolling dunes, jumps and landing in sand, the sort of thing like the pavement dips my father used to take really fast when we were kids to give you that floating feeling and a nice gradual soft landing.
IMO, they tuned the Mojave great for its target and the side effect of that is a good ride on American roads in many locations LOL
 

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The paint issue seems to be a really small percentage (amplified by the internet)
No paint issues on mine at all.
Mine actually has more "bounce" with the fox shocks, the OVerland ride was soft but it didn't bounce more than once. It was down then up, or up then down. The fox shocks with the other springs make it go up and down at least 2 cycles now instead of one.
The ride of the Mojave makes sense to me - rolling dunes, jumps and landing in sand, the sort of thing like the pavement dips my father used to take really fast when we were kids to give you that floating feeling and a nice gradual soft landing.
IMO, they tuned the Mojave great for its target and the side effect of that is a good ride on American roads in many locations LOL
I really wish I could drive to you and you could drive mine to see how rough it is.
 

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IMO, they tuned the Mojave great for its target and the side effect of that is a good ride on American roads in many locations LOL
This exactly. Soft springs and relatively stiff damping.
 

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I really wish I could drive to you and you could drive mine to see how rough it is.
I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe take a ride in another Mojave at your dealership?

I'm in MA and NH. I'd be happy to let you drive mine if you are nearby.

I guess it also depends on what you are coming out of. I came out of a European sedan. It was pretty firm. If you are coming out of a luxed out F150 or Suburban, its going to be stiff.
 

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I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe take a ride in another Mojave at your dealership?

I'm in MA and NH. I'd be happy to let you drive mine if you are nearby.

I guess it also depends on what you are coming out of. I came out of a European sedan. It was pretty firm. If you are coming out of a luxed out F150 or Suburban, its going to be stiff.
Coming from a Rubicon gladiator, bud, that would be awesome and I appreciate it, but I’m in Oklahoma.
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