P00AF less than 5 miles into first tow

[biodiesel]

I am bringing it in to the dealer today. Hopefully they can pull the cab with all the stuff I have done.

Did they get you approved and scheduled for turbo warranty?

I do like the idea of getting a new turbo with 100k warranty, probably a smart idea. Just concerns me what else they will fuck up while literally doing open heart surgery on my jeep.

The Garrett turbos on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel have been known to last 400,000+ miles. The key is to let the turbo cooldown before shutting off the engine and service the air filter regularly. With that said, I wonder how long the actuators will last on the Gen 3 engines. We do have a few 200,000- and 300,000-mile Gen 3 engines in the Ram. Those are all running the factory turbo with no issues.

Stellantis doesn't see the actuator as being related to safety, so they haven't issued a recall for the turbo actuator. A turbo actuator isn't considered a wear item, either. This probably explains why the part was never intended to be sold separately.

We don't see actuator issues on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel. So, it will be interesting to see if the actuator on the Gen 3 will degrade faster than the Gen 2. So far, mine has held up with no issues and I've been averaging between 6,000 - 8,000 miles per year of towing since the truck was new.

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[biodiesel]

The trip has been great so far. 475 miles today and stopped in Tucumcari for the night. No issue with cel or limp mode. I’ve been trying to stay around 65 mph but a few times have dropped down into the 50s to keep EGTs down.

That's good news. Did you stay at the KOA in Tucumcari?

The stretch you mentioned leaving Santa Rosa tomorrow will be the test.

I'm not sure, but I think our truck will drop down to 4th coming out of Santa Rosa pulling the camper. I've always been surprised at how well the EcoDiesel does at maintaining speeds with cruise.

I'm looking forward to your trip report!

 

[Rusty PW]

Did they get you approved and scheduled for turbo warranty?



The Garrett turbos on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel have been known to last 400,000+ miles. The key is to let the turbo cooldown before shutting off the engine and service the air filter regularly. With that said, I wonder how long the actuators will last on the Gen 3 engines. We do have a few 200,000- and 300,000-mile Gen 3 engines in the Ram. Those are all running the factory turbo with no issues.

Stellantis doesn't see the actuator as being related to safety, so they haven't issued a recall for the turbo actuator. A turbo actuator isn't considered a wear item, either. This probably explains why the part was never intended to be sold separately.

We don't see actuator issues on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel. So, it will be interesting to see if the actuator on the Gen 3 will degrade faster than the Gen 2. So far, mine has held up with no issues and I've been averaging between 6,000 - 8,000 miles per year of towing since the truck was new.

That's low mileage per year.

 

[biodiesel]

That's low mileage per year.

The 2020 Ram EcoDiesel average closer to 10,500 miles per year, but 6,000 - 8,000 are the actual towing miles.

The 2023 Jeep Gladiator EcoDiesel is low mileage. It currently has 8,000 miles on it (averaging about 3,000 miles per year)

The 2015 Ram EcoDiesel is averaging 12,000 miles per year. It now has 135,000 miles on it.

 

[RhinoJT]

Did they get you approved and scheduled for turbo warranty?



The Garrett turbos on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel have been known to last 400,000+ miles. The key is to let the turbo cooldown before shutting off the engine and service the air filter regularly. With that said, I wonder how long the actuators will last on the Gen 3 engines. We do have a few 200,000- and 300,000-mile Gen 3 engines in the Ram. Those are all running the factory turbo with no issues.

Stellantis doesn't see the actuator as being related to safety, so they haven't issued a recall for the turbo actuator. A turbo actuator isn't considered a wear item, either. This probably explains why the part was never intended to be sold separately.

We don't see actuator issues on the Gen 2 EcoDiesel. So, it will be interesting to see if the actuator on the Gen 3 will degrade faster than the Gen 2. So far, mine has held up with no issues and I've been averaging between 6,000 - 8,000 miles per year of towing since the truck was new.

Still waiting on word from dealer. I will say, I love the jeep, and the diesel is amazing. However, after the HPFP, then the corrosion on all doors hood and tailgate; and now this. These aren’t small or even moderate issues, I can’t help but be somewhat annoyed.

 

[JTdiRtyD]

Still waiting on word from dealer. I will say, I love the jeep, and the diesel is amazing. However, after the HPFP, then the corrosion on all doors hood and tailgate; and now this. These aren’t small or even moderate issues, I can’t help but be somewhat annoyed.

Service 4x4 lights and now the P00AF are the only issues I've had at 70k miles. 4x4 light is an easy fix, I just need to inspect the FAD harness and find where it's starting to crack.

Theres really nothing else out here that interests me enough to replace the Gladi. It'll take a pretty stout and well performing engine/trans combo to make me consider getting rid of it.

 

[mgenbox]

The 2020 Ram EcoDiesel average closer to 10,500 miles per year, but 6,000 - 8,000 are the actual towing miles.

The 2023 Jeep Gladiator EcoDiesel is low mileage. It currently has 8,000 miles on it (averaging about 3,000 miles per year)

The 2015 Ram EcoDiesel is averaging 12,000 miles per year. It now has 135,000 miles on it.

doesn’t the def crystallize or do you have a work around for that

 

[biodiesel]

Still waiting on word from dealer. I will say, I love the jeep, and the diesel is amazing. However, after the HPFP, then the corrosion on all doors hood and tailgate; and now this. These aren’t small or even moderate issues, I can’t help but be somewhat annoyed.

I can understand the frustration. The HPFP recall wasn't a big deal unless if the CP4 failed. The corrosion issue would be very annoying and the P00AF (turbo replacement) would be equally as annoying, even if both of those problems are covered under warranty. Hopefully this will be the last of your issues for a very long time.

 

[biodiesel]

doesn’t the def crystallize or do you have a work around for that

I run Additivated DEF (Platinum) in all vehicles which minimizes deposit formation. So far, I haven't had any DEF issues in the 5 years I've been running Platinum. Last summer, I added a bottle of Rislone to each vehicle. I'll probably skip the Jeep this year, but I'll add another bottle next month in both Ram trucks. It's probably overkill, but I'd rather error on the side of caution.

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