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Ok, that post was maybe a little over the top. But seriously, our over-litigious society forces manufacturers to maintain these number low, because people don't drive with common sense any more.
It's ironic you post this directly after stating that you pay "zero" mind to GVWR when towing/hauling. Of course the truck can handle more than sticker within reason, but nevertheless it's valid point for one looking at the JT to consider, after all it IS supposed to be a truck right.





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I’m going to drive a Sport S with diesel tomorrow, I will try my best to remember to take a pic of the sticker. I do a lot of highway driving to get to my hunting spots and tow a small boat for fishing and duck hunting. I tried to talk myself numerous times into buying the Max Tow Sport S or Rubicon but could never get the truck to average over 21 MPG while doing a 20 mile test drive. Between the average fuel economy and wandering issues it was enough to pass. Really hoping the Sport S Eco rectifies both issues for me. The truck wasn’t ready to drive today. As a side note I have a Bronco reservation ( not digging the wait and the smaller backseat legroom of only 36”. I’ve also been sniffing around a Defender base and am driving the new F150 tomorrow as well. My 3 year long car search is almost done with everything finally rolling out, lol.

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What dealership are you dealing with that has an Eco in stock?
 

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It's ironic you post this directly after stating that you pay "zero" mind to GVWR when towing/hauling. Of course the truck can handle more than sticker within reason, but nevertheless it's valid point for one looking at the JT to consider, after all it IS supposed to be a truck right.
Zing! You got me good!

I meant you don't need to look only at the sticker and treat it as the only consideration.

Common sense means that some loads under the limit could be unsafe when you drive like there's no load behind you. Likewise, loads over the number may be "safe" (maybe not "legally safe") if you drive with extra caution. If you cause an accident while hauling, whether you are just over or just under the number, you're still at fault. The number is printed on the vehicle to protect FCA, not to protect you!
 

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Does anyone know if the Sport S Eco Diesel comes with the wide track axles that are found on the Rubicon and Max Tow or are they the standard Gladiator axles?
 

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Does anyone know if the Sport S Eco Diesel comes with the wide track axles that are found on the Rubicon and Max Tow or are they the standard Gladiator axles?
They are definitely Dana 44 axles but they dont call them "Max tow" axles because they are 3:73 gears on the Ecodiesels and not 4:10. They are also "supposed" to be the wider axles but I have not seen anyone confirm it with part numbers or measurements.
 

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They are definitely Dana 44 axles but they dont call them "Max tow" axles because they are 3:73 gears on the Ecodiesels and not 4:10. They are also "supposed" to be the wider axles but I have not seen anyone confirm it with part numbers or measurements.
Every Gladiator has Dana 44 axles. The only difference I’ve seen with any proof is the .75 inch on either side of the axles on the Rubicon’s and Sport/Sport S with Max tow package.
 

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Every Gladiator has Dana 44 axles. The only difference I’ve seen with any proof is the .75 inch on either side of the axles on the Rubicon’s and Sport/Sport S with Max tow package.
Is that just due to wheel backspacing or is the axle actually physically wider?
 

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Is that just due to wheel backspacing or is the axle actually physically wider?
Axle is physically wider by 1.5 inches, 3/4 of an inch on either side. Best I can tell from everything I’ve read is, other than width, all the axles are the same regardless of trim or packages. All are heavy duty Dana 44. There are no “stronger” axles on the JT.
 

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The fenders also have an extra lip to them that should correlate to the wider axle.
 

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