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The point of shaking the bottles is to mix the additives that settled to the bottom of the bottles since they were boxed. I think it’s important to have those additives in the tranny.

If it were me, I’d hope I kept all those bottles. If you have them and have a partially full bottle, pour it into one and shake the crap of of it, then transfer into another empty bottle, shake, repeat until you’ve gone through all the bottles. The additives will be condensed into the last bottle and do the frame level thing, suck some fluid out and put that concentrated additive bottle in and perform the oil level procedure. You’ll be good to go.

It’s true, additives do settle out to the bottom of the bottles when not disturbed. This is the same for all bottled oils.
What I do is shake the quart bottle and I use a hard nipple lid and just squirt it in the fill plug hole.
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Guys, I've gotten old. I still remember when transmission's had dipsticks and dipstick tubes.
 

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I have the regular pan, and darn it it I didn't shake the bottles. But 9 months later and still running strong.
Learned something new. I guess I should do a drain and fill, but same as you, perfect since last spring.
 

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^^^this right here folks^^^
I’d love to setup a larger pumper, with a hose that threads in, but I guess it would be tough to figure out when it overflows, so maybe not.
 

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LOL,, I remember when there were no dip sticks in the transmission because it was a stick shift. There were no automatics in Jeeps.. 3 speed sticks.
 

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LOL,, I remember when there were no dip sticks in the transmission because it was a stick shift. There were no automatics in Jeeps.. 3 speed sticks.
I still have one with a 3 speed stick. But it’s getting a four speed.
 

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You could rock a 3-speed Jeep with a quickness! R-1-R-1-R-1.......
 

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I’m running the PPE pan on my gas Gladiator and have done the fluid change with no issues. The YouTube gear-cycling routines are overblown, the important part is having the Jeep level and the transmission in the correct temp range. Fill until it dribbles out, start it, foot on brake, slowly cycle through P-R-N-D for a couple seconds each, then with it still running and at temp, top it off again until it just overflows and close it up. I’ve put plenty of hard miles on it since and it’s been running perfectly.
I posted this in another thread on this site, but I did the procedure below which saves you a step. Vevor pump was like $60 on Amazon.

TL;DR - by using an attachment to screw into the fill port, I was able to only have to do one fill procedure before draining out the excess.

I did this procedure today (changed fluid, and installed my PPE pan) and I used my new Vevor fluid extract/fill system to do so.

Firstly, loosening the exhaust wasn't fun, and getting my 3/4" impact into a position where it could get good purchase on those bolts took a lot of imagination and atachments.

Once I got that done and removed the pan, installing the new PPE pan was actually fairly straightforward (I bent the bejesus out of the exhaust to get it out of my way).

I got the Vevor attachment because hand pumping six quarts of tranny fluid isn't my idea of a good time. As a surprise bonus, that Vevor unit has a bunch of attachments, and one is/was the exact size to screw into the Gladiator's fill port.

By doing that, I was able to put 6 quarts into the Gladiator at the first fill (where most people are only able to get 3.5/4 quarts in on the initial fillup, and then need to cycle that fluid through the tranny before they're able to fill the second time). This has the benefit of ensuring that the tranny is fully lubricated from the gate, and the only thing I needed to do was to cycle through the gears a bunch of times to get the temp up to 86F+.

After I'd cycled through the gears a bunch, I took the Vevor attachment off, allowed excess to drain out of the fill port (call it 1/3 of a quart, so total fill was 5 and 2/3 quarts) , and reinstalled the fill plug.
 

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Vevor pump was like $60 on Amazon.
The VEVOR YS-089 (10L) fill pump is designed primarily to be used with an air compressor. The hand pump on the 10L VEVOR unit is intended only for small adjustments. @Maximus Gladius advised me that moisture can build up in an air compressor and contaminate the ATF.

There are 2-gallon / 7.5L options that have a fully-functional hand pump, such as Motive Power Fill Pro 1745, Orion Motor Tech BBT-D002-N1, or VEVOR YS-059A.

The correct ATF adapter is ATF108 (M18x1.5). This adapter may or may not be bundled with one of the 7.5L fill pumps. ACZCR makes a 13-piece ATF adapter kit (ASIN B09ZB4BFRG) that includes an ATF108 adapter. I suggest that you buy the fill pump first to see if this adapter is bundled with it.

Also see Section 3 - Tools in Pan Drop Instructions.

Other tips:
  • The timed shifting sequence / cycling through gears must be done when the Trans Temp reaches 86°F (30°C)
  • For the stock oil pan on early models, removing the two exhaust flange bolts, on the right/passenger side, may not be necessary
  • The two exhaust flange bolts were easy to remove in my case (almost no rust), but your case may vary
    • I used a torque wrench, set to a high torque, to remove the bolts because the torque wrench is longer than my inexpensive ratchet; a better option may have been to (carefully) use a ratchet and a breaker bar
Nice job on getting the pan drop done.
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