Recall: 3.0L EcoDiesel engine high pressure fuel pump (HPFP) failure (2021-2023 Gladiator)

[1is2many]

Just got the call today, all new fuel system needed due to the fuel pump throwing metal in the system. Fracking sucks, but it’s under warranty. 22’ JTRD

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[rharr]

Just got the call today, all new fuel system needed due to the fuel pump throwing metal in the system. Fracking sucks, but it’s under warranty. 22’ JTRD

that is no surprise that is what they do when they go pop

 

[22EcoDs]

Just got the call today, all new fuel system needed due to the fuel pump throwing metal in the system. Fracking sucks, but it’s under warranty. 22’ JTRD

Time to sit and wait

 

[Sandevino]

Unless you’re heavily invested in the EcoDiesel I would explore the buy back option.

 

[Ironman 67]

Just got the call today, all new fuel system needed due to the fuel pump throwing metal in the system. Fracking sucks, but it’s under warranty. 22’ JTRD

I am sorry you are going thru that, mine is on recall list but not went out yet.
Mine is down due to major electrical issues and I can tell you from star case that they are extremely slack and poor communication.

 

[1is2many]

Unless you’re heavily invested in the EcoDiesel I would explore the buy back option.

didn’t know there was one

 

[Grumpy_Guy]

I was planning a trip out west in October with my ‘21 gladiator eco diesel pulling my 17’ travel trailer (trinity site, PCH north to the Oregon boarder, visit the sequoias, and back to Florida).
Last year I took a drive to monument valley and then the ALCAN highway to Alaska.
it has been well over a year since the HPFP problem was identified and there is not a solution in sight.
I really liked my eco diesel gladiator. I consider my self fortunate that I traveled 57000 miles during my two years of ownership that I did not experience a failure of the HPFP on my trips to Alaska, Texas, and Maine without being stranded.
I can just imagine what the towing bill would be to have my wrangler and 17’ travel trailer returned to Florida from Northern California when the HPFP failed. I seriously doubt I would receive a priority delivery and installation consideration should a new HPFP become available while I was on a trip.
For consideration that the reliability of my gladiator eco diesel could fail and cause such an exceedingly awkward situation I elected to trade in My greatly devalued gladiator for a vehicle that has a better probability of successfully completing my excursion.
I bought a Ram 1500 4X2 5.7 V-8 to replace my Gladiator.
The first thing the dealer did was place a bright yellow tag on the gladiator windshield stating it could not be sold. There is a stop sale hold on eco diesels.
I can’t believe that Bosch has not Developed replacement for the HPFP in the past year.
Stalintis is really missing the boat by not successfully resolving this issue.
Farting around pursuing EV technology is going to lead to an end of road trips and off roading. An EV with a load of dead lithium batteries off road can’t have someone pour a bucket of electricity into a dead EV and drive on. And, try driving an EV through deep water.
The tree huggers have their heads so far up their fannies they’ll never see reality.

 

[kb5zcr]

One idea if you have a trip a long way from home is to have the jeep towed to the nearest dealer, you will have to wait for the repair anyway so where it happens isn't a total loss.
Then rent a U-hall (or pickup) to pull your trailer home. Then fly to pick up the jeep once repaired.

Certainly a major pain (no doubt about that), but if you love the truck that much, it might having a back-up just in case. Hopefully a fix will be rolling out to the dealers sometime this year.

Just trying to toss out alternative ideas.

 

[jav_eee]

I can’t believe that Bosch has not Developed replacement for the HPFP in the past year.
Stalintis is really missing the boat by not successfully resolving this issue.

along with GM, Ford.....
FCA aren't the only company dealing with this issue.

 

[biodiesel]

along with GM, Ford.....
FCA aren't the only company dealing with this issue.

Very true. Also, the failure rate for the HPFP is very low. I have two EcoDiesel trucks. I live and travel in very remote areas. A HPFP failure is something I don't even think about. FCA did an internal investigation and found that 1% failed under the 100,000-mile warranty.

 

[sharpsicle]

Very true. Also, the failure rate for the HPFP is very low. I have two EcoDiesel trucks. I live and travel in very remote areas. A HPFP failure is something I don't even think about. FCA did an internal investigation and found that 1% failed under the 100,000-mile warranty.

For a critical component like this, that's actually a pretty high failure rate. 1+ out of every 100? That's very poor. Then consider that many other statistics show CP4 failures approaching a 7% failure rate. That's horrendous. Failures of course do happen, but for a mission-critical item under mass-production like this it should be below the 0.05% threshold IMO.

So even if it's not 7%, and not 1%, but somewhere in-between, that's still an embarrassingly poor statistic for something so critical as a fuel pump.

 

[Grumpy_Guy]

Granted it is a low probability, I was lucky on my trip to Alaska. I just chose not to risk a catastrophic breakdown 2800 miles from home.
Ford no longer sells the 3.0 diesel.
GM still sells their 3.0 diesel,.
My 2014 Laramie diesel had a problem with a coupler that cracked and spewed raw diesel exhaust. It took several months to get a new part and only affected the 2 wheel drive trucks. My dealer provided a new Jeep Cherokee to drive while I waited for the part.
The time it is taking to correct this new issue is unsatisfactory.
I didn’t want to consider the challenges of a failure while towing my travel trailer on west coast and contending with returning to my home in Florida.

 

[Grumpy_Guy]

One idea if you have a trip a long way from home is to have the jeep towed to the nearest dealer, you will have to wait for the repair anyway so where it happens isn't a total loss.
Then rent a U-hall (or pickup) to pull your trailer home. Then fly to pick up the jeep once repaired.

Certainly a major pain (no doubt about that), but if you love the truck that much, it might having a back-up just in case. Hopefully a fix will be rolling out to the dealers sometime this year.

Just trying to toss out alternative ideas.

A valid point, I would have to assume the additional expenses would be on my dime.
Litigation against Stalantis would be a challenge and I doubt I could prevail.
I’m 78 and I don’t care to deal with the additional BS.

 

[biodiesel]

For a critical component like this, that's actually a pretty high failure rate. 1+ out of every 100? That's very poor.

It's not good, but that's why the part is being recalled. The CP4 pump can't tolerate fuel that doesn't meet spec. If an owner/operator uses a fuel additive or biodiesel blends, then the risk of failure is reduced. Nonetheless, if there's a 1% chance of rain today, I'm not going to stop my plans to have fun in the outdoors. The odds of a high-pressure fuel pump failure are so low that I don't worry about it. Americans have a much higher chance of premature death due to heart disease, cancer, and other serious health ailments.

 

[sharpsicle]

It's not good, but that's why the part is being recalled. The CP4 pump can't tolerate fuel that doesn't meet spec. If an owner/operator uses a fuel additive or biodiesel blends, then the risk of failure is reduced. Nonetheless, if there's a 1% chance of rain today, I'm not going to stop my plans to have fun in the outdoors. The odds of a high-pressure fuel pump failure are so low that I don't worry about it. Americans have a much higher chance of premature death due to heart disease, cancer, and other serious health ailments.

That's not a good use of statistics. Chance of rain is not in the same statistical category as fuel pump or engine failure. Of course I'm not saying not to go use it, that would be silly, but it's also completely unfair to compare those two things statistically. It's downplaying the severity of the issue. I won't even touch the health claims, that's a very strange comparison to try and bring up here.

A 1%+ chance for failure of a fuel pump is not low. That's why it's such a problem, why there was a stop sale, and why there were various legal actions coming from it. Because it's unreasonably high. We do a disservice to the problem if we pretend it's not.

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