Recall and Stop Sale on Certain 2020 Gladiators For Bad Driveshafts

[TheSolarWizard]

Not really sure what happened, never got to take it off road. All 1500miles on it have been highway. Driving on the highway just felt a jerk with a popping sound up front. Truck then started bucking every so often. Had to get it towed to the dealer. No sensor lights came on. Dealer thought it was a faulty sensor, they replaced it, truck was still bucking. So they decided to replace the whole front axle. Luckily jeep wave has been taking care of my rental - but I know my truck will never be the same.

That’s crazy. FWIW I’ve completely destroyed the front axle in a previous Jeep and once fixed you never would have known

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[Rokon]

May 11, 10AM

Thanks.

 

[Jeepdude413]

Sounds to me like 3,427 are affected, but only 5% of those have reported having the symptoms so far. The info has been confusing.




Here's a look at which part is affected:

Are u sure that is the affected component? Recall states it is a “constant velocity joint”. Not trying to insult anyone’s intelligence, just trying to locate exact issue.

 

[Rokon]

Are u sure that is the affected component? Recall states it is a “constant velocity joint”. Not trying to insult anyone’s intelligence, just trying to locate exact issue.

I was wondering the same thing...if the center bearing was the issue why would the repair be replacing the driveshaft?

 

[bgenlvtex]

Yeah, I just saw today that it was on the supplier side. Still, the trucks are completely assembled here in the U.S. by skilled workers that get paid well which you said was not the case.

LOL, I said no such thing. I spoke to the assembly of the drive shaft.

"Skilled" workers is a relative term, but the skilled workers who turned out my Gladiator and many more like it with more air leaks than a Sopwith Camel were definitely sucking hind teat in the "skilled" department. And the skilled workers who assembled these drive shafts were on about the same level.

I was born and raised and worked in an age where craftsmanship was the standard. It's 2019 and craftsmanship has been swept away in the sea of spreadsheets used to measure productivity and profitability. Those good paying jobs were sent out of the USA to maximize profit, not to maximize quality.

 

[Kjm18]

LOL, I said no such thing. I spoke to the assembly of the drive shaft.

"Skilled" workers is a relative term, but the skilled workers who turned out my Gladiator and many more like it with more air leaks than a Sopwith Camel were definitely sucking hind teat in the "skilled" department. And the skilled workers who assembled these drive shafts were on about the same level.

I was born and raised and worked in an age where craftsmanship was the standard. It's 2019 and craftsmanship has been swept away in the sea of spreadsheets used to measure productivity and profitability. Those good paying jobs were sent out of the USA to maximize profit, not to maximize quality.

That's exactly what you said. You said unskilled workers install the driveshaft in the truck which means you don't understand AT ALL how these trucks are assembled. It's not that hard to figure it out. It's all over youtube. The supplier isn't installing the driveshaft on the truck.

 

[bgenlvtex]

That's exactly what you said. You said unskilled workers install the driveshaft in the truck which means you don't understand AT ALL how these trucks are assembled. It's not that hard to figure it out. It's all over youtube. The supplier isn't installing the driveshaft on the truck.

You suck at reading.

The supplier delivers complete assembled drive shafts (on a truck, that is unloaded by a fork lift by the way).

FCA employees then take the completely assembled drive lines and install them in the vehicle in an assembly line environment.

 

[WXman]

Are u sure that is the affected component? Recall states it is a “constant velocity joint”. Not trying to insult anyone’s intelligence, just trying to locate exact issue.

I was wondering the same thing...if the center bearing was the issue why would the repair be replacing the driveshaft?

Yes, that is the correct part. The CV joints at the end of driveshafts are called "Rzeppa joints".

Also, from the FCA document:

"A monoblock joint is a constant velocity joint within the center of the
driveshaft. A monoblock without grease may overheat and seize, which may
result in a fractured rear driveshaft."

 

[Jeepdude413]

Yes, that is the correct part. The CV joints at the end of driveshafts are called "Rzeppa joints".

Also, from the FCA document:

"A monoblock joint is a constant velocity joint within the center of the
driveshaft. A monoblock without grease may overheat and seize, which may
result in a fractured rear driveshaft."

The Rzeppa joints are in fact a style of constant velocity joints by definition. Should would like a part number. And what is meant by “center” of drive shaft? Half way from end to end or as in the interior center of the shaft. I know it seems like a play on words but there can be a huge difference in how something is understood w/o feedback. Thanks for the info.

 

[brancky3]

So, what's the real danger of driving (if any) before the fix?

 

[Renegade]

So, what's the real danger of driving (if any) before the fix?

It breaks, damages your Jeep, and causes a crash.

 

[Renegade]

Likely scenario in the Dana Spicer driveline assembly plant:
Supervisor: Hey new guy, I need you to put these driveshafts for the Gladiator together.
New Guy: Ok
Supervisor: Good job, new guy. You put grease in these for the past month, right?
New Guy: What?
Supervisor: Oh crap! Gotta call Jeep.
Jeep: Crap! Wonder how many we installed. Gotta call the Assembly Foreman.
Foreman: We installed a bunch of them.
Jeep: Crap! Will this cause people to die in crashes?
Foreman: I don’t know- ask engineering.
Engineering- Maybe- you tell legal?
Legal- Recall them now!
Jeep: Shit!!!

 

[Rokon]

The Rzeppa joints are in fact a style of constant velocity joints by definition. Should would like a part number. And what is meant by “center” of drive shaft? Half way from end to end or as in the interior center of the shaft. I know it seems like a play on words but there can be a huge difference in how something is understood w/o feedback. Thanks for the info.

I thought it may refer to the ability of the driveshaft to change length due to suspension movement. If there is a slip joint that seizes up I could see that causing a driveshaft fracture.
To me this makes sense of replacing the rear driveshaft. If the problem is the center carrier bearing it would seem that both driveshafts and the center bearing would be getting replaced.
I really don't know and I'm speculating on this. Hopefully clearer information comes out to explain just what the issue is.

 

[Braunsemail]

Mine was June 11th

Same here!

 

[Jeepdude413]

I thought it may refer to the ability of the driveshaft to change length due to suspension movement. If there is a slip joint that seizes up I could see that causing a driveshaft fracture.
To me this makes sense of replacing the rear driveshaft. If the problem is the center carrier bearing it would seem that both driveshafts and the center bearing would be getting replaced.
I really don't know and I'm speculating on this. Hopefully clearer information comes out to explain just what the issue is.

Possibly on to something. Thats why i have reached the end on the internet trying to find out what a monoblock is other than “one block”

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