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I dig it, I think they did a great job. Also I want to kick a marketing guy in the junk every time I read the word sustainable in the context of a technology that requires rare raw materials that come out of the ground.
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The screen looks like it would be a smudgy mess in no time not to mention the glare it will put off being high and in the sun all the time.

The side curtain air-bags would be nice. I like the look of the new grill too.

Replacement windshields just doubled in cost.
 

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I'm a fan of the technical improvements (airbags, Willys rear locker, free float axle) but man I hate the aesthetic choices. That grille is awful, the stitched dash is ugly, and that screen is a crime. BUT I'm also one of the weirdos who ordered a Jeep with no power anything and the 5 in radio because I hate that modern tech junk.
My feelings align with yours, +airbags, +lockers, +axle. That screen, not appealing to me. While I appreciate the integration of maps and vehicle setup through the screen, I really prefer they are minimal and part of the total dash, not the grand center piece.

Screens might be great if you are just playing around, or sitting in the passenger seat, but I far prefer the cockpit experience without the undue distraction and glare. The 8.4" or whatever comes with the Rubicon is as big as I can tolerate. I really appreciate on that front that Jeep had the consideration to provide a hard button to turn off the screen. My Subaru required multiple menus to turn it off. On dark roads the screen either incurs on my vision or washes out the moon and starlight. If you have ever had to change camp sites in the middle of the night or get a sleeping kid out of the back without waking them, being able to keep the cabin dark is an asset.
 

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What are you running for the AM antenna?
So what I did was buy the Quadratec kit that includes the 3/8 x 24 base here. https://www.quadratec.com/products/96080_5011_07.htm

Then I went and got an AM/FM 4' Firestik.
https://www.wearecb.com/amfmx.html?...vc384eSZkbff-ioeOoAXMxbJ5ZskFwGEaAin6EALw_wcB
Once you have the antenna adapter you can run a bunch of different 3/8x24 antennas and experiment if you wanted though. The 48" antenna is 17" longer than the stock one and has worked just fine for me.
 

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I'm not a mechanically knowledgeable man, what's the significance of full float axle?
A semi-float axle (the current Dana 44) has the flange and wheel studs as part of the axle shaft. Essentially the entire weight of the vehicle is carried by the shaft. A full float has a separate shaft and hub. The hub carries the weight, not the shaft. Basically much stronger. And it's much easier to change a shaft since you don't, technically, need to remove the wheel assembly, you can pull the broken shaft out and slide in a new one.

Currie has a much better explanation....

 

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Cars and trucks have been doing this since last century. Jeep is finally catching up.
shocked they didn't do this earlier since a tall antenna sticking up in the bushes and trees is sort of anti-trail, IMO. Remove anything external that can snag and the stupid antenna forms huge pieces of ice in our ice storms and then starts whipping back and forth wildly on the road with all that ice on it. It's a dumb thing to have an external AM/FM antenna on anything, IMO.


Jeep finally caught up with all of the thousands of people swapping antenna for short antenna with crappy range. It's a win - nothing to catch on low-hanging trees and large bushes, nothing to catch ice on during our ice storms and whip antennas around, better reception than those stubby things, and less drag having a protrusion out there.
Bill; that's funny about the radio antenna the reason why and length is if it hits you know that the top will rub on on what ever the antenna it. Say driving under a tree across road. So with stock antenna you creep up to tree and if hits back up find another way around or air tires down more. On driver's side you can look out of window to check.
I can attest on the antenna being good for that. Being I live in N.F. and during and after severe weather tree fall across the roads. A few times I've "used" it as a gauge driving though some spots in my LJ. Not going to work with my JT though.
:like: :jk: why no light bar above windshield. I've smashed a few on XJ that way. :facepalm:
 

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A semi-float axle (the current Dana 44) has the flange and wheel studs as part of the axle shaft. Essentially the entire weight of the vehicle is carried by the shaft.
Yeah, and for anyone who hasn't had one apart -
and it's sort of a lever-like action with the wheel trying to force the outer end of the axle up, and to a much lesser degree (because of the length from the bearing to each end) it tries to force the inner end down.
Semi-float because the axle simply slides into the carrier side gears. It's free to move in and out with expansion and so on.

With the full float the only stresses are torsional - no pressure from the weight of anything, no leverage on it. It just has to resist twisting forces.

Bill; that's funny about the radio antenna the reason why and length is if it hits you know that the top will rub on on what ever the antenna it. Say driving under a tree across road. So with stock antenna you creep up to tree and if hits back up find another way around or air tires down more. On driver's side you can look out of window to check.
I can attest on the antenna being good for that. Being I live in N.F. and during and after severe weather tree fall across the roads. A few times I've "used" it as a gauge driving though some spots in my LJ. Not going to work with my JT though.
:like: :jk: why no light bar above windshield. I've smashed a few on XJ that way. :facepalm:
I liked the tall whip on the F250 as there were a lot of places that truck didn't like to go due to height of the roof. I know it was close even getting into some garages.
Maybe Jeep should have just moved the antenna forward a few inches to give more of a warning.....
 
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Ya know those marketing types - the painted apples, the burger slid forward in the bun to make it look bigger.
Likely a poor attempt at photoshop by someone who has never even driven a Jeep.
Knowledgeable Jeep people like yourself will shred such pics.
They don't know any better.
Frankly, the way people are these days - I wonder how many will even notice.
Me - I looked at the radio and other stuff I have always wished was better/different so I ignored the speedometer.

If they wanted to be clever, they'd have had a future date on the clock and the speedo indicating 88 mph.


Love it - and makes me feel more confident with our purchase.
We know how forums go............. likely a few had problems and suddenly they all need better cooling. And/or - they were towing 5,000 pounds when it's rated at 3500.
I wonder how the Silverado owner felt being helped out by a 2.0 liter Jeep HAHA.
Dude the look on his face when I offered to help was priceless.

I told him, it hurt my heart my first recovery with my Jeep was a Silverado.....since I'm a life line GM guy.

He broke his truck trying to help some jackholes (being nice here LOL) that decided to take a brand new 2wd rental suburban out on to the beach in OBX and got buried. They tried to snatch the Suburban out and chucked their drivers side front CV shaft out.

I ran my 30k strap through my rear hitch shackle to his 2 front hooks, I was in 4 hi and yanked his ass out to the shore side so he could get a running approach to the main road off the beach. They tried to give me money for beer, I told them to save it and fix his rig. My wife even got a video of it......I will have to dig that up.
 

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A semi-float axle (the current Dana 44) has the flange and wheel studs as part of the axle shaft. Essentially the entire weight of the vehicle is carried by the shaft. A full float has a separate shaft and hub. The hub carries the weight, not the shaft. Basically much stronger. And it's much easier to change a shaft since you don't, technically, need to remove the wheel assembly, you can pull the broken shaft out and slide in a new one.

Currie has a much better explanation....

TFL has a video on YouTube where they walk around the refreshes wranglers. The rubicon with the full floater has the same wheels front & back, same little half-dollar sized center cap. So I don’t believe you’ll be able to remove the axle shaft with the wheel still on, which kind of makes this a swing & a miss for me.
 

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I'm loving I could switch over come the fall. I'll wait and see with they do for the gladiator
 

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My prediction is that the gladiator will get a refresh next year. Its been a year behind the Wrangler anyway. They will let all the old parts and axles run out and then replace the gladiator axle with the full float to offer them 100 lb more tow capacity than the competition! Unless the competition offers 35” tire packages etc its doubtful we will get a recon package etc…btw they do have angry eyes for the renegade so you know they will carry over to the new grill. LoL
 
 







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