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Rubicon Mopar Steel 3 Pc Bumper - does it weigh down front end?
Gren71
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ive been wondering this as well.
im sure it does weight it down. but does that weight make any notable difference in ride and/or front end height.
im sure it does weight it down. but does that weight make any notable difference in ride and/or front end height.
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Yes, it does. It's about 80 pounds. I put in Daystar .75" spacers to compensate. YES, I did add a winch, too, but the bumper is pretty heavy.
The spacer compensated for the weight and then some.
The spacer compensated for the weight and then some.
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NewGladdyOWNR
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I’m adding a steel bumper to my overland, but I will have the rubicon suspension, with the Teraflex 1.5” leveling kit up front. Also, I bought the 3/4” daystar rear spacer, because i wanted some rake, but this was before i picked up a steel bumper. I’m wondering if the steel bumper will be enough alone to weigh down the front (keeping some rake) without the 3/4” rear spacer.
Anyone have any insight into this?
Anyone have any insight into this?
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I will be going with an Aluminum stubby up front. The only regret I have with our JKUR is all the added weight. Between skids bumpers, sliders, and winch, I am almost at carrying capacity for the rig. On our soon to be Glady, I am determined to add as little weight as possible. Right now I am looking at mentioned front bumper, sliders and 35's. Thats it. The weight adds up quick
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Mine has Rubicon front springs. I added the bumper and a winch.
The springs alone gained me roughly 1" over stock height.
The bumper and winch dropped that 1/2".
The 3/4" spacers took it back up so my net gain was 1.25"
If you don't do a heavy winch, the bumper likely will not drop it 1/2".
I'd LOVE to get the measurements from a 100% fully bone stock never been touched 2020 Overland to see just how those sit since I have since lost my original stock measurements. I was careless and wrote them on a piece of paper - in the garage. You'd have to see my garage to understand LOL. A good blood hound could get lost in there.
NewGladdyOWNR
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Well you're in luck, as I have a stock overland atm. Doing the full rubi suspension on saturday, so I will definitely take some measurements and see where I end up. This will be with the plastic bumper. Once I install the steel bumper, I'll take some additional measurements up front and see how much I drop.
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Thanks! Since tires and tire inflation can impact the height off the ground, measurements from the center of the wheel/hub up to the fender would be most helpful. And of course these fenders have some trick openings so it can be hard to know exactly where to measure to.....
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Looking for a good pic. I had this exact set up. Mopar steel and 1.5 Terraflex. It gave a very tiny bit of rake. Driveway was sloping down to the rear in the second pic. I think the back was maybe one inch higher frame to ground.
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awesome, thank you. So are you saying I shouldn’t do the rear spacer eh? The steel bumper will be enough to give the back a little rake over the front? I plan on running stubby too, so another wrench in the weight equationLooking for a good pic. I had this exact set up. Mopar steel and 1.5 Terraflex. It gave a very tiny bit of rake. Driveway was sloping down to the rear in the second pic. I think the back was maybe one inch higher frame to ground.
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Man..... Good question. I bet those stubby Mopar are 25 pounds combined.
But.... @ShadowsPapa
Will probably verify this for me.....the springs are probably progressive....meaning it's not a linear change in height to weight.....it's probably a curve. First 80 pounds you may lose .5 in but the next 80 you may not....it could be .25 or less....
I know I did not see much of a drop after adding a winch and plate. I was rather shocked. Didn't measure it....
I tell you what. These spacers are pretty damn easy to install. Mine took 40 min in the garage with a floor jack... So roughly one beer.
I would start with the front and add the back later if you don't like it. Drive it around a bit. Let the springs settle.
That pic in my driveway I have 4 33 in tires in the bed. So a bit of weight.
I know after I did the spacers, my friends all thought it still had a bit of a rake. It was not squatting...that's for sure.
But.... @ShadowsPapa
Will probably verify this for me.....the springs are probably progressive....meaning it's not a linear change in height to weight.....it's probably a curve. First 80 pounds you may lose .5 in but the next 80 you may not....it could be .25 or less....
I know I did not see much of a drop after adding a winch and plate. I was rather shocked. Didn't measure it....
I tell you what. These spacers are pretty damn easy to install. Mine took 40 min in the garage with a floor jack... So roughly one beer.
I would start with the front and add the back later if you don't like it. Drive it around a bit. Let the springs settle.
That pic in my driveway I have 4 33 in tires in the bed. So a bit of weight.
I know after I did the spacers, my friends all thought it still had a bit of a rake. It was not squatting...that's for sure.
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Thanks for the information! I am ok with some rake, do you think the 1.5 in the front and 3/4 in the back would look decent once just the bumper was on? Or would you just do 1 inch in the front with the 3/4 in the back or would that result in too much rake compared to stock? I have no plans on installing a winch, just prefer the stubby portion of the bumper.
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For what it's worth, I weighed each end cap from the 3 piece stock steel bumper when I took mine off tonight and each section weighed 8.8 lbs. So nothing life changing but almost 18 pounds is nice when running it stubby.
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