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I’m curious if there is any community observations on this or data somewhere. I think that the 2020 models built in 2019 were built with pride and without COVID supply shortages and human capital issues.
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Supplies don't impact quality - you have a part or you don't.
The human equation is the only real variable on quality issues.

Parts availability impacts quantity
Human factors impact quality.

All auto makers around the globe have faced the same issues as far as parts, supply chains.
The USA has been going through "the great quit".
 

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I’m curious if there is any community observations on this or data somewhere. I think that the 2020 models built in 2019 were built with pride and without COVID supply shortages and human capital issues.
Could be wrong but I think they had more issues than now because it was the introduction models
 

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I would like to believe mine is better because it is one of the earlier builds (assembler pride). I have no evidence to support that. I have had a drive shaft (preventative recall) and steering box replaced under warranty. So far, 32k miles with no other issues.
 

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Could be wrong but I think they had more issues than now because it was the introduction models
Why? Same transmission as used for a while, same engine as used for years, same front suspension and steering, same cabin............ it wasn't "new" really. It was a combination of existing parts put into a new model.
And keep in mind mid-model year changes that come into play - you could buy a 2023 and some change they make could make it very problematic.
 

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Why? Same transmission as used for a while, same engine as used for years, same front suspension and steering, same cabin............ it wasn't "new" really. It was a combination of existing parts put into a new model.
And keep in mind mid-model year changes that come into play - you could buy a 2023 and some change they make could make it very problematic.
I love my Jeep don’t get me wrong but I feel as one thing that could definitely be more consistent in quality is paint job.
 
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Supplies don't impact quality - you have a part or you don't.
The human equation is the only real variable on quality issues.

Parts availability impacts quantity
Human factors impact quality.

All auto makers around the globe have faced the same issues as far as parts, supply chains.
The USA has been going through "the great quit".
i think the quality of the parts being supplied could also be impacted by the human capital shortages. Like all the tops on the broncos.
 
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My 2020 has 20,000 trouble free miles on it so far but.
 

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I'm definitely glad I got a 2019 produced 2020 model. Seems like everyday you see a post about 2021 and 2022 models having issues, buts that's just my observation

it's the same with campers as well. Even the dealers are saying to be warry of any COVID produced campers as they are experiencing quality issues.
 

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My 2019 build has had battery issues, the steering box TSB, and windshield defrost issues.
 

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Mine is a 2019 build. No leaking axle and currently at 53k miles and climbing. Only issue was replacing aux battery but all gravy so far.
*knock on wood*
 

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Supplies don't impact quality - you have a part or you don't.
The human equation is the only real variable on quality issues.

Parts availability impacts quantity
Human factors impact quality.

All auto makers around the globe have faced the same issues as far as parts, supply chains.
The USA has been going through "the great quit".
I think you are wrong bigot on this. When there are parts shortages, standards drop. What would have been rejected makes it way to the line. As a former automotive supplier, I know this first hand. A very common tactic we used to employee when we felt they (particularly Chrysler actually) were being a little unreasonable, is we would take our time”working them back into the production cycle”for replacement material. We’d then resend the product. I would say it worked better than 95% of the time. We only did that when we were confident our product was good, but the shop that built the tops for Jeeps was right down the street.Worst operation I’ve ever seen, and they’d often get so far behind that Jeep would often send someone down to cherry pick the best defective tips they had for assembly to keep the line moving.

they care much more about stopping the line than your trivial recalls…
 

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i think the quality of the parts being supplied could also be impacted by the human capital shortages. Like all the tops on the broncos.
The Bronco top was a shit design, not poorly made. Proof? Ford didn't go back to Webasto and say "make it better, assholes" they had to re-engineer the whole thing.
My guess is they thought they could make the hardtops on the cheap and gotta smacked by reality. Not that the 2.0 tops are worlds better. Still seen some of the same issues, but less common.
 

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Also can we talk about the fact that you wrote "as reliable as a toyota" on a 2 to 3 year old truck?

250,000 miles is reliability. 50k miles is "built to outlive the factory warranty". Not exactly a benchmark worth bragging about.
 
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Also can we talk about the fact that you wrote "as reliable as a toyota" on a 2 to 3 year old truck?

250,000 miles is reliability. 50k miles is "built to outlive the factory warranty". Not exactly a benchmark worth bragging about.
You’ve got me there big time. Lol. I was going for the sentiment more than the true comparison. More accurate may be “I’ve never made a help me fix my Jeep post”. ? My Toyotas have been for around 200k of hard use…no comparison yet.
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