Tazer and radio

[AirborneSilva]

Thanks guys, that's what I thought. I didn't bother with those cables but only because when I installed my tazer I didn't know about them.

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[Maximus Gladius]

The extension cables are not needed when using the Tazer. You unplug the two cables that are plugged into the SGW module. and plug them into the Tazer. The SGW connectors are left empty. No other cables are needed.

Yes, I reread my post and it even confused me. Let me respeak and clear up what I said. The “red” cable I have is connected the very same way your taser is connected. You actually explained it better than me.

The “communication” problems I experienced happens as soon as I reach up under the dash and pull those two SGW connector plugs and plug them into the cable.

You said the ‘taser doesn’t need that red cable’ but you can’t just plug the taser into the normal OBD2 port and run it because if you could, why would the extension cable be needed?

The only way I stumbled upon my communication problems was when ever I would need to take the truck in for service, I would unplug my red SGW bypass cable and reconnect the two SGW connectors back in, the “communication” problems were not there.

Here’s an example from two diagnostics I’d did with the SGW cable installed with all the problems and then again when I uninstalled it and put it back to normal.

(The one report showing “tire sensor” is because I caulk tested my tires and the PSI is lower than what the computer has been set for, otherwise everything is happy)

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Let me add one more interesting point concern my installed SGW cable and the dealership service department. Firstly, they don’t care that I installed that cable to do my own diagnostics with THINKCAR.

But the interesting thing was I brought the truck in for a misfire code that had occurred and THINKCAR had stored the code. I brought the truck in and the Service Advisor plugged in the MOPAR scan tool to my cable and it couldn’t read ANYTHING,…absolutely nothing. She took my report and log it in and booked the investigative service for later and told her I would disconnect the cable next time I was in.

Next time came, the cable was gone and their MOPAR scan tool functioned as it should.

 

[wcberry]

Yes, I reread my post and it even confused me. Let me respeak and clear up what I said. The “red” cable I have is connected the very same way your taser is connected. You actually explained it better than me.

The “communication” problems I experienced happens as soon as I reach up under the dash and pull those two SGW connector plugs and plug them into the cable.

You said the ‘taser doesn’t need that red cable’ but you can’t just plug the taser into the normal OBD2 port and run it because if you could, why would the extension cable be needed?

First, the Tazer does NOT plug into the OBD2 port. You also don't need ANY extra cables with the Tazer. Just unplug the two cables from the SGW Module (not to be confused with the OBD2) and plug them into the Tazer. DONE, ready to program using the steering wheel buttons as per their instructions.

Unplugging the two cables from the SGW is a real pain to reach and unplug. So if you want to remove the Tazer for service or any reason, you unplug those cables from the Tazer and plug them back into the SGW module. DONE.

But as I said, getting those two cables plugged in or unplugged from the SGW is a real tedious task and hated be most folks. So Z automotive makes an Extension harness that is only about 6" long. It has a male connection on one end and females on the other end. So, you can plug the male end into the SGW module and leave it there with nothing plugged into the female end. Now if you remove the Tazer, you take the two original cables from the Tazer and plug them into the extension which is hanging about 6" lower than the SGW module making them super easy to plug and unplug.

If you dont ever plan on removing the Tazer, or you don't mind what a pain installing the cables back into the SGW module each time you remove the Tazer, you do NOT need the extension at all. It is available only as a convenience.

You also do not have to leave the Tazer plugged in at all if you are just make changing to things like tire size, lighting from Halogen to LED, etc. You make the changes and remove it and plug the two cables back into the SGW module or your extension cables.

I do not see how the red bypass cable you have a pic of will work with the Tazer, since the Tazer does not plug into the OBD2 port or any bypass cable.

 

[AirborneSilva]

Sounds to me like the extension cable is the issue and not the tazer...

 

[Maximus Gladius]

I do not see how the red cable you have a pic of will will work with the Tazer, since the Tazer does not plug into the OBD2 port.

Thanks for that. So what you’re saying is the plug-in part of the taser isn’t an OBD2 fitting and that’s the difference between the taser extension cable and my OBD2 THINKCAR dongle.

So then process of elimination, (let’s forget about the cables) I’m thinking the simple act of unplugging the SGW harness to plug in the taser and/or extension cable or my red extension cable is causing the communication disruption. It’s just a theory that I’ve proven to my self only at this point.

Others who are experiencing “communication” issue with a taser need to confirm the communication issues persist or not with the taser removed and trouble codes resets.

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Thinking further,…maybe those that have communication issues are those that run a cable to those that don’t. Another factor that could be causing this is perhaps the wire makeup or compounds are different in the cable that connect to the harness connectors causing low voltage resistance…??? I’m no expert here. Just tossing in possible reasons for communication errors

 

[wcberry]

Thinking further,…maybe those that have communication issues are those that run a cable to those that don’t. Another factor that could be causing this is perhaps the wire makeup or compounds are different in the cable that connect to the harness connectors causing low voltage resistance…??? I’m no expert here. Just tossing in possible reasons for communication errors

There is no cable to run with a Tazer. Just unplug the two existing cables in the SGW module and plug into the Tazer. In my experience, the Rebooting and Sleep process must be followed after making any firmware changes with the Tazer, and sometimes has to be repeated to properly "take".

 

[JCappy]

There is no cable to run with a Tazer. Just unplug the two existing cables in the SGW module and plug into the Tazer. In my experience, the Rebooting and Sleep process must be followed after making any firmware changes with the Tazer, and sometimes has to be repeated to properly "take".

So I stumbled across this post as I have been researching the Tazer Mini and possibly using an extension cable since the location is a pita to access. Based on your post, I understand how the tazer connects with and without the extension. Do you have a tazer and if so do you use an extension? If I decide to purchase a tazer, I would like to use the extension to make removing and adding the tazer easier. I understand that the red cable posted earlier is the wrong cable for the tazer but I'm wondering if the correct cable will cause any connection issues.

 

[Mr._Bill]

So I stumbled across this post as I have been researching the Tazer Mini and possibly using an extension cable since the location is a pita to access. Based on your post, I understand how the tazer connects with and without the extension. Do you have a tazer and if so do you use an extension? If I decide to purchase a tazer, I would like to use the extension to make removing and adding the tazer easier. I understand that the red cable posted earlier is the wrong cable for the tazer but I'm wondering if the correct cable will cause any connection issues.

The purpose of the extension cable is to bring the two security gateway connectors down below the dash so the security cables are easy to reach. You shove your hand up there and tear up your knuckles just the one time. Unplug the security cables from the gateway and then plug the extension cable into the gateway.

 

[wcberry]

So I stumbled across this post as I have been researching the Tazer Mini and possibly using an extension cable since the location is a pita to access. Based on your post, I understand how the tazer connects with and without the extension. Do you have a tazer and if so do you use an extension? If I decide to purchase a tazer, I would like to use the extension to make removing and adding the tazer easier. I understand that the red cable posted earlier is the wrong cable for the tazer but I'm wondering if the correct cable will cause any connection issues.

I do use a Tazer and it is a great tool. I use the extension cable so it makes removing the Tazer or adding it back easy, as the connection point with the extension is where I can get to it. The SGW module is tucked up in a hard place to easily access, so fight once when removing the OEM cable and plugging in the extension. If you were not going to use the Tazer you would plug the OEM cable into the extension cable and you are back to factory with the SGW module connected. Then you can disconnect OEM cable easily as it is hanging down where you can reach it and plug in the Tazer.

 

[JCappy]

The purpose of the extension cable is to bring the two security gateway connectors down below the dash so the security cables are easy to reach. You shove your hand up there and tear up your knuckles just the one time. Unplug the security cables from the gateway and then plug the extension cable into the gateway.

I do use a Tazer and it is a great tool. I use the extension cable so it makes removing the Tazer or adding it back easy, as the connection point with the extension is where I can get to it. The SGW module is tucked up in a hard place to easily access, so fight once when removing the OEM cable and plugging in the extension. If you were not going to use the Tazer you would plug the OEM cable into the extension cable and you are back to factory with the SGW module connected. Then you can disconnect OEM cable easily as it is hanging down where you can reach it and plug in the Tazer.

Yea I understood the process from all of the reading I have done, I just wanted to make sure that people were not having any issue while using the extension. I'm assuming it really doesn't make a difference where I purchase the extension as I would think one is as good as another. It should be fun trying to reach up and disconnect the OEM cable from the SGW module as I have rather large hands so I had rather use the extension and only tear them up once. If you have any tips on disconnecting the OEM cable or things to watch out for I'd appreciate any advise. Thanks

 

[AirborneSilva]

Yea I understood the process from all of the reading I have done, I just wanted to make sure that people were not having any issue while using the extension. I'm assuming it really doesn't make a difference where I purchase the extension as I would think one is as good as another. It should be fun trying to reach up and disconnect the OEM cable from the SGW module as I have rather large hands so I had rather use the extension and only tear them up once. If you have any tips on disconnecting the OEM cable or things to watch out for I'd appreciate any advise. Thanks

I have short stubby fingers from my youth milking cows, I found it wasn't too hard using a mechanics pick, one with a 90* end, it helped out greatly! I still don't think anyone has fully answered it the cable extensions are causing the glitches people are reporting, that I'd really like to know!

 

[JCappy]

I have short stubby fingers from my youth milking cows, I found it wasn't too hard using a mechanics pick, one with a 90* end, it helped out greatly! I still don't think anyone has fully answered it the cable extensions are causing the glitches people are reporting, that I'd really like to know!

I don't have a mechanics pick but I see HF has a set of 4 for $1.99 so if I have issues I can grab those. I agree that it's not clear that the extension cable is the cause of the glitch. Guess I will get one and if I have a problem I can always remove it and see what happens.

 

[Mr._Bill]

I never had any issues with the extension cable. I purchased the ZAutomotive extension cable. There are clones available for less.

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