Tesla Truck less than $50k

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Teslas are lame.
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[drogers]

I'll believe it when I see it. They may not even be in business by the time it's supposed to hit the market. Wouldn't be surprised at all if a bigger OEM buys them out.

I do think my Gladiator will be the last gas vehicle I buy, but battery tech needs to advance a lot before I'm buying an electric truck.

There is literally not a single auto maker with enough money to buy out Tesla - they’d need ~&45-50 Billion-with-a-B to even consider a buyout. And if you think any of them would pull of a friendly merger, consider how likely it would be that Elon would take second seat to the new company’s leadership - yeah, not likely.

Only way he’d go along with a merger would be if he was put in charge of the new company (think apple buying NEXT), and I don’t see any Detroit or foreign manufacturers wanting that either.

 

[beelzebot]

There is literally not a single auto maker with enough money to buy out Tesla - they’d need ~&45-50 Billion-with-a-B to even consider a buyout. And if you think any of them would pull of a friendly merger, consider how likely it would be that Elon would take second seat to the new company’s leadership - yeah, not likely.

Only way he’d go along with a merger would be if he was put in charge of the new company (think apple buying NEXT), and I don’t see any Detroit or foreign manufacturers wanting that either.

They'd only need that much if the stock doesn't tank. That's not a given. Agreed though, it'd have to be hostile.

 

[Slapping_Rabbits]

I'd really like to see a charging station network increase throughout the country. Having family and friends all up and down the west coast that have electric cars and can travel great distances without worry makes a big difference. I wouldn't do that on the east coast though. I am hoping that this changes soon. I'd like to have 2 cars, one gladiator and one electric car for all the commute and in and around town stuff. If anything the environmental regulations aren't strict enough to push these changes through. Jack oil prices up to Europe's level and see how quickly we get charging stations and better train systems. I guess that's just the chemical and environmental engineer in me talking.

 

[bgenlvtex]

LOL, Tesla will never build a truck.

Tesla might build an e-El Camino to serve as a fashion accessory for the ever expanding virtue signaling class, who are constantly weeping over "MUH oil" while blissfully ignoring where the rare earth minerals required for the batteries and electronics come from,( or the environmental impact of mining them) but there won't be a truck.

This is on the same scale as people who think meat in a grocery store doesn't come from living animals.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

There is literally not a single auto maker with enough money to buy out Tesla - they’d need ~&45-50 Billion-with-a-B to even consider a buyout. And if you think any of them would pull of a friendly merger, consider how likely it would be that Elon would take second seat to the new company’s leadership - yeah, not likely.

Only way he’d go along with a merger would be if he was put in charge of the new company (think apple buying NEXT), and I don’t see any Detroit or foreign manufacturers wanting that either.

Not hardly, as of yesterday, Telsa worth pegged at $38.8 Billion. RIght now Telsa big problem is its burn rate vs revenue stream.

 

[LittleRocker]

Commenting as a Tesla owner, anyone that underestimates either Musk or Tesla is likely mistaken. The switch to electric is happening. Too many European countries have already decreed an end date for the manufacture of internal combustion engines. China, is probably not far behind. Tesla is easily 5 or more years ahead of every other manufacturer in technology, charging network and battery design. Charging ranges of 600 miles are on the horizon. With continued additions to the Supercharging network and the EV network coming out of the dieselgate settlement with VW, one day in the near future, it will be no different than pulling into a gas station. Rivian (http://www.rivian.com) will hit the market before Tesla. Undoubtedly, the day of the electric truck is coming.

 

[eternus]

Commenting as a Tesla owner, anyone that underestimates either Musk or Tesla is likely mistaken. The switch to electric is happening. Too many European countries have already decreed an end date for the manufacture of internal combustion engines. China, is probably not far behind. Tesla is easily 5 or more years ahead of every other manufacturer in technology, charging network and battery design. Charging ranges of 600 miles are on the horizon. With continued additions to the Supercharging network and the EV network coming out of the dieselgate settlement with VW, one day in the near future, it will be no different than pulling into a gas station. Rivian (http://www.rivian.com) will hit the market before Tesla. Undoubtedly, the day of the electric truck is coming.

I look forward to them electric bits in all vehicles and would love to get a Rivian. I think we're all on this forum because we want a truck with removable doors and top, so can agree that this is only "interesting to read about" until FCA starts to talk hybrid & electric in production. I love that Elon's approach with Tesla is more about getting us past fossil fuel dependency than making as much money as possible. I think his forward thinking will drive the industry and hopefully we'll see solar powered Jeep Gladiators with infinite range by 2030. (c:

 

[homerun]

I look forward to them electric bits in all vehicles and would love to get a Rivian. I think we're all on this forum because we want a truck with removable doors and top, so can agree that this is only "interesting to read about" until FCA starts to talk hybrid & electric in production. I love that Elon's approach with Tesla is more about getting us past fossil fuel dependency than making as much money as possible. I think his forward thinking will drive the industry and hopefully we'll see solar powered Jeep Gladiators with infinite range by 2030. (c:

Post of the day!

 

[bgenlvtex]

I look forward to them electric bits in all vehicles and would love to get a Rivian. I think we're all on this forum because we want a truck with removable doors and top, so can agree that this is only "interesting to read about" until FCA starts to talk hybrid & electric in production. I love that Elon's approach with Tesla is more about getting us past fossil fuel dependency than making as much money as possible. I think his forward thinking will drive the industry and hopefully we'll see solar powered Jeep Gladiators with infinite range by 2030. (c:

That's very optimistic of you and it seems Elons propaganda has been effective.

When you look at the next vehicle you see take into account every pice of it that is rubber or plastic. Including the cases on the batteries are built using petroleum.

I think renewable energy is awesome, I think it has a future, particularly for urbanites. But make no mistake, there is no replacement for petroleum products as feedstock material for the synthetics/plastics industry.

 

[homerun]

That's very optimistic of you and it seems Elons propaganda has been effective.

When you look at the next vehicle you see take into account every pice of it that is rubber or plastic. Including the cases on the batteries are built using petroleum.

I think renewable energy is awesome, I think it has a future, particularly for urbanites. But make no mistake, there is no replacement for petroleum products as feedstock material for the synthetics/plastics industry.

I can't speak for @eternus however I did not read his post to be anything but optimistic. I think that was the point. By the way I don't know the nuances of making plastic but won't recycling old plastic greatly cut down on the amount of petroleum need?

 

[bgenlvtex]

I can't speak for @eternus however I did not read his post to be anything but optimistic. I think that was the point. By the way I don't know the nuances of making plastic but won't recycling old plastic greatly cut down on the amount of petroleum need?

I said he was being optimistic, not sure how that can be misconstrued..

Plastics can be recycled, but they are dirty and not generally recycled into the things you see in an automobile, they also cost more to recycle than virgin feedstock. To say nothing of the fact that if you quit manufacturing it, you won't have anything to recycle.

I think the majority of people don't recognize that virtually everything in their life that is made of "plastic" is made using petroleum. So when they go on their anti oil campaign they really don't understand that they are demanding that a huge portion of the products they rely on daily (like the phone or computer they are using to campaign against oil) will cease to exist without oil.

Plastic gets recycled but not for

 

[beelzebot]

Of course there are plenty of situations where we still need oil. The point is reducing the dependency, not necessarily eliminating it. Maybe we'll get there one day but you have to start somewhere.

My wife and I are eyeing the VW ID Buzz (modern electric microbus) due in 2022. An electric van with dual motors and over 300 mile range sounds incredible.

 

[SleepyJeep]

Commenting as a Tesla owner, anyone that underestimates either Musk or Tesla is likely mistaken. The switch to electric is happening. Too many European countries have already decreed an end date for the manufacture of internal combustion engines. China, is probably not far behind. Tesla is easily 5 or more years ahead of every other manufacturer in technology, charging network and battery design. Charging ranges of 600 miles are on the horizon. With continued additions to the Supercharging network and the EV network coming out of the dieselgate settlement with VW, one day in the near future, it will be no different than pulling into a gas station. Rivian (http://www.rivian.com) will hit the market before Tesla. Undoubtedly, the day of the electric truck is coming.

Rivian definitely will be the first to market with the truck esp after the $500m injection from Ford they just got. Electric is definitely happening but again a lot of people just assume that electrics will lower your carbon footprint and ignore the fact that the net carbon footprint of electrics are still high just like solar and it will really take off when the technology advances to the point where the net carbon footprint is much lower. Just like how we deal with our trash and other scraps, we just outsource the manufacturing that have high risk effluents and cause harm to the planet to third world countries and claim it is clean here but the global impact is the same...

Me personally, I am not excited about electrics but Hydrogen fuel cells really excites me about our future even though Elon Musk calls it stupid , but we are still a few decades away. But, you never know sometimes all it takes is a breakthrough that allows some technologies to leapfrog into reality in a shorter timespan.

 

[SleepyJeep]

Of course there are plenty of situations where we still need oil. The point is reducing the dependency, not necessarily eliminating it. Maybe we'll get there one day but you have to start somewhere.

My wife and I are eyeing the VW ID Buzz (modern electric microbus) due in 2022. An electric van with dual motors and over 300 mile range sounds incredible.

You and me both my friend, especially the yellow and white one although I might not be able to afford it if it is priced too high cuz I plan to buy another Gladiator in Gator in Diesel and rig it for overlanding...

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