The 10 harsh truths Jeep didn't come out with a V8 Jeep gladiator.

[BallsDeep]

You guys are literally just describing the Hurricane engine. That's what that is. It exists.

I have a supercharger on my 4.0 in my TJ and I get about 8 mpg on premium and it drinks a gallon of water/meth probably every 50 miles although I've never measured. Love the engine for it's durability and characteristics but it is not an efficient engine.

There is plenty of argument for a straight six being the best engine configuration. And again, we loop back to the Hurricane. A modern engine with modern shit bolted to it but that's a twin turbo 3.0 straight six.

I’ll be honest and say I haven’t kept up with new, or new “ish” Stellantis engines. I’d only ever heard about the 4cyl turbo Hurricane engine… I didn’t know they also made an I6 version. Learn something new every day.

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[Metalhead]

Forget the hemi give me the hurricane straight six twin turbo.

 

[Gizmo]

Hurricane 6 in it would make it damn near as long as a power Wagon. It would need to be on at least 42” tires to take the ugly away

 

[Sweetums]

So where did you grow up? People in favor of overzealous environmental regulation tend to be from overpopulated city's.

All over thanks to being a military kid.

 

[Bandit’s Lair]

I’ll be honest and say I haven’t kept up with new, or new “ish” Stellantis engines. I’d only ever heard about the 4cyl turbo Hurricane engine… I didn’t know they also made an I6 version. Learn something new every day.

I wasn’t aware of a 6 either. I’ll have to look into it. Always a fan of the straight 6 since my first one. May be slightly skewed since it was an RB25det but I still prefer them.

 

[Zachanadandy]

I wasn’t aware of a 6 either. I’ll have to look into it. Always a fan of the straight 6 since my first one. May be slightly skewed since it was an RB25det but I still prefer them.

Power numbers are good, reliability hasn't been from what I've seen.

 

[Bandit’s Lair]

If I ever leave the current land of oat milk and environmentally conscious gathered honey a 4 or 6bt would ultimately be my choice. I don’t mind driving a tractor. It’s kinda fun.

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Yeah, I’m fine with the EPA and the clean Air Act. I sort of enjoy air that isn’t crunchy and water that doesn’t catch fire.

People opposed to these things tend to be from places with low industrial density, low population density, or are too young to remember how toxic and polluted our country had become. The last time the air and water were this clean was prior to the industrial revolution.

Yep. Everyone gets angry at the EPA for bringing regulation, but never the company that (while providing jobs) did so in unnecessarily harmful ways. Or the city council(s) who zoned certain areas for polluters while protecting others.

Doesn't just affect cities either. In Appalachia the mining companies have been pushing for (and succeeding) in rolling back stream protections, alloying them to not have to test water after a mine is opened/closed/etc. Whereas before they had to test streams before and after.

What a world.

 

[AmosMoses]

Yep. Everyone gets angry at the EPA for bringing regulation, but never the company that (while providing jobs) did so in unnecessarily harmful ways. Or the city council(s) who zoned certain areas for polluters while protecting others.

Everyone? Are you just taking a viewpoint you dont like and attributing other things along with it that are worse, so that its easy for you to discount their concerns altogether and you dont have to think or have your views challenged?

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Everyone? Are you just taking a viewpoint you dont like and attributing other things along with it that are worse, so that its easy for you to discount their concerns altogether and you dont have to think or have your views challenged?

In this context "everyone" is a generality that is not meant to encompass literally everyone. So no.

The overall point being that the clean air act and the clean water act are both needed pieces of regulation because companies will, in general, chase the dollar over the health and welfare of their neighbors/employees/etc.

 

[Gizmo]

Look up the Ram RHO and learn about the Hurricane. Issue seems to be its to long to fit in the JT/JT

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Look up the Ram RHO and learn about the Hurricane. Issue seems to be its to long to fit in the JT/JT

Yep, which makes sense when you look at the piston diameter. The hurricane pistons are slightly smaller in diameter, but when they're all lined up in a row

 

[Dilly’S Willy]

While I agree with you, you can make some good numbers on an inline 6 turbo charged but still not drink like a V8 does idling down a trail. Thats what I primarily think of when I’m talking Jeeps and engines. Does it throw down torque on demand and what does it do when at idle? A turbo on the smaller scale will spool faster to provide the power you need for those certain obstacles that need the oomph but not swig gas when you’re waiting to pull up on the obstacle. Maybe something around a T3 size would work. I’m not sure what has gone on in turbo technology in the last decade or so as I’ve been out of it since around the R34 Skyline time frame.

Except modern engines are having the turbine housing and exhaust manifold part of the head casting. So when that turbo goes bad/needs a rebuild/exhaust leak in "manifold", you can't just swap housings/turbos/and parts will be more expensive if available at all due to design. It's not just Jeep doing this either. Many OEMs are casting the exhaust manifold into the head casting. I've even seen a few need new heads because the "exhaust manifold" developed a hairline crack and triggered a CEL preventing passing emissions without a new head due to the design.

The Hurricane is included in these engines with this design.

No more T3/T4 housing swaps on modern factory turbo engines.

Look up the Ram RHO and learn about the Hurricane. Issue seems to be its to long to fit in the JT/JT

The biggest issue with the hurricane design is the turbine housing being part of the head casting, so WHEN (not if) the turbo starts to wear out or just fail, enjoy paying for a new head and all THAT labor too now. Yes many Jeep people either lease or trade before 150k+ (if bought new), so they most likely won't have to concern themselves about this. And for the few who do, they're in for this surprise.

Do they make decent power? Sure! But like any other OEM engine part, it's designed to mil-spec: cheapest bidder that gets the job done. So when you want MORE power, or just upgrades to the turbo, you don't have the same options anymore like you would with a conventional turbine housing/exhaust manifold.

 

[Gizmo]

Dont matter how the turbo is installed if the engine dont fit in he truck because of length which has been discussed plenty. My point was the fellow had not heard of the 6 cyl so i directed him to a good example

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Dont matter how the turbo is installed if the engine dont fit in he truck because of length which has been discussed plenty. My point was the fellow had not heard of the 6 cyl so i directed him to a good example

We just sawzall a hole in the grille, cantilever cylinders 1 & 2 out the front. I see no problems with this plan.

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