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I'm the one who started this thread and I had no intention for it to end up this way....wow, unfortunately there are a lot of A-holes on this site.
Since I started it is there a way I could delete it?

Maybe it's a joke for some of you who aren't effected (yet) but I'm in NY and on Long Island as of this morning we have just about 3,000 people that tested positive, 17,000 in NY & 150 deaths so far. Nation Guard is taking over NYC today
 
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I'm the one who started this thread and I had no intention for it to end up this way....wow, unfortunately there are a lot of A-holes on this site.
Since I started it is there a way I could delete it?

Maybe it's a joke for some of you who aren't effected (yet) but I'm in NY and on Long Island as of this morning we have just about 3,000 people that tested positive, 17,000 in NY & 150 deaths so far. Nation Guard is taking over NYC today
Hey sorry to hear about your situation in NY, scary thing is in reality most people in the US will experience a similar setting in the next coming months.

Definitely something that will change our lives forever and will change the culture of our nation. Hopefully by separating our personal interaction we will grow stronger in the long run...
 

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So simple to take the personality conflict elsewhere, but apparently beyond their capabilities.

Best of luck, keep us posted. Not as bad here in KY as many places, but further closures pretty much daily to limit movement. 15,000 dead so far is harsh.
 

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Well a quick update on my situation. Went in today and they sent 5 of us home including myself for quarantine until Monday, so looks like I'm on quarantine. I'm guessing the other 2 guys left at operations left as well, no way it would of been productive with them being there. Can't believe they were even going to try to keep operations open considering the circumstances. I hate it came to this but it's our responsibility to be as safe as possible for our families and ourselves and neighbors. People be safe and do your part. It's real and I don't see any immediate relief in sight.
 

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lol.. fake news.. right... truth is from many sources Donnie was briefed about the pandemic in January.. he chose to igniore ir. Lives will be lost because he was more concerned about keeping it quiet so he dint lose money. As fot you moronic assertions about Hillary or Obama being perfect... never said that... but either would at least put the country before their personal benefit.. that is called being a leader... GET IT???.. lol wasting my time with you no doubt.. keep drinking the koolaid
 

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he Republican Corporate Bailout Is Obscene
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Over the next year, the United States will almost certainly go through a depression. Economists at Goldman Sachs currently expect the U.S. economy to shrink by an unprecedented 24% next quarter. They’re optimists compared to Morgan Stanley, which expects a 30% drop, and Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard, who predicted a 50% decline.


Even the best response from our government cannot prevent some form of catastrophe. But what Congress does next could mean the difference between millions of families muddling through and millions of families being bankrupted and evicted. Swift, serious action is needed to support ordinary people through the coming disaster, and to get American medical infrastructure up to speed ― manufacturing the supplies we are already running short on and training the personnel who are already overworked.

But one thing is extremely clear: Large American corporations are not in immediate jeopardy. Despite the recent stock market crash, we are not currently experiencing a financial crisis ― a breakdown of the credit system in which healthy companies cannot obtain loans to continue operations. With the Federal Reserve’s announcement on Monday that it would be providing unprecedented, direct support to both small business and large corporations, the central bank ensured that firms can get access to government-backed loans with no strings attached.
 

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I'm the one who started this thread and I had no intention for it to end up this way....wow, unfortunately there are a lot of A-holes on this site.
Since I started it is there a way I could delete it?

Maybe it's a joke for some of you who aren't effected (yet) but I'm in NY and on Long Island as of this morning we have just about 3,000 people that tested positive, 17,000 in NY & 150 deaths so far. Nation Guard is taking over NYC today
Wow, anyone who down plays this has got to be crazy. Lives are being lost and there is nothing in the foreseeable future telling us it's going to get better. People not taking this serious are the reason it's spreading like it is. It's crazy. I feel for anyone up in that area. It will probably be that bad in NC before the end of the month. Hopefully no deaths.
 

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That’s the funniest thing l have heard yet. Obama, Clinton,Biden had their positions for sale everyday they were in office to gain personal wealth. They are the swamp and we as patriotic Americans need to thank God everyday that they are not in office right now. It was Obama that was caught saying he couldn’t let a good disaster go to waste. So please stop your propaganda and and help us pull together by supporting our elected president. No one on either party could do any better trying to save Americans lives and our economic system. So let’s bury the hatchet and pull for Donald Trump for the sake of this country.
Even though as a republican I haven't supported Donald Trump nor did I vote for him, but I will say that we do in these times need to pull together and show him a little support. I believe he's doing the best he can and from what I can see it's the stupid senators on both sides trying to handcuff what he's able to do. I feel like for the first time he's showing some kind of leadership. Maybe not at first when he was first told about it but since craps gotten real, he has manned up. I'm not saying he's winning any votes here or anything, but the Senate needs to stop slowing down the dang process, on both sides.

But really we do need to come together, I don't care who you are affiliated with, this is ours as Americans now, we got to own it and do something about it.
 
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Even though as a republican I haven't supported Donald Trump nor did I vote for him, but I will say that we do in these times need to pull together and show him a little support. I believe he's doing the best he can and from what I can see it's the stupid senators on both sides trying to handcuff what he's able to do. I feel like for the first time he's showing some kind of leadership. Maybe not at first when he was first told about it but since craps gotten real, he has manned up. I'm not saying he's winning any votes here or anything, but the Senate needs to stop slowing down the dang process, on both sides.

But really we do need to come together, I don't care who you are affiliated with, this is ours as Americans now, we got to own it and do something about it.
Personal political views of orange man aside...

We ALL need to watch out for HB 5717...And make sure it dies stuck in committee! The left is going to try to create the "gunpocalypse" bill during this time of crisis because most sheeple are stupid, and want Big Brother to save us from ourselves... :facepalm:

Ben Franklin said, "Those who would give up essential liberties to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety."

And i must agree. If you would give up your God-given rights just for Big Brother to pat you on the back and then lie to your face and tell you it will be ok if you just give them all your guns and ammo, then you are NOT a patriot...You are an idiot. If the government says you don't need a gun, then you can bet your ass that you're going to need a damn gun!
 

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Trump Is in a Frenzy Over the Economy—Not So Much the Virus
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As the country grapples with the growing number of coronavirus cases and related deaths, President Donald Trump is telling his advisers that he finds the current state of the economy unacceptable and has agitated for yet another controversial course correction.


According to two people who have spoken to the president, Trump has demanded officials put together a plan so that the economic fallout of the public-health emergency does not drag on for even “one month longer,” even as his own health professionals warn that the virus’ spread could last far longer than that.

At a White House coronavirus briefing Monday evening, Trump insisted that he’s looking to open the country again in weeks, not months, even as cases of COVID-19 continue to surge across the nation.

“I’m not looking at months, I can tell you right now,” Trump insisted. “We’re going to be opening up our country, and we’re going to be watching certain areas.”


More than a dozen White House officials, outside advisers, longtime associates of the president, and Trump campaign staffers all described to The Daily Beast a growing sense of urgency in reversing the steep declines in the stock markets—the Dow Jones Industrial Average has dipped below levels when Trump took office—and the impending spike in the unemployment rate. That urgency has been apparent in the president as well, as he has begun pressing informal advisers, TV personalities, and MAGA loyalists outside his administration for their ideas on how to stem economic losses related to the spread of coronavirus, which various economists have projected could be a 30 percent reduction in GDP.

“I had a very serious conversation with [President Trump] and with [top economic adviser] Larry Kudlow and with [Treasury Secretary Steve] Mnuchin as well,” relayed Art Laffer, a longtime conservative economist, who said he had three missed calls from Trump on Thursday night before the two connected. During the phone call, Laffer says he advised the president to back a payroll tax-cut waiver, to guarantee liquidity for successful companies, and that “we should not be bailing out insolvent firms right now. I also advised him against ‘helicopter money.’”


“The president understood exactly what I was saying,” Laffer said.

The change in emphasis illustrates the degree to which Trump continues to view the crises of his presidency—and his own political well being—on short term timelines and through the prism of dollars and cents. It has alarmed health officials, who worry that the administration will abandon measures that have worked in other countries, just as America begins to get into the thick of its own crisis.


Trump’s eagerness to soften the across-the-board health care recommendations that his own coronavirus task force has pushed has been fed by like-minded allies, as well. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who penned a much-discussed opedfrom Italy warning Americans to take the virus seriously, says that he has “bombarded” White House officials in recent days encouraging them to start putting in place guidelines to encourage economic activity.

“You have to think horizontally as well as vertically. The public health crisis comes in and they think only vertically,” Gingrich told The Daily Beast. “The economists come in and think only vertically. That's not how the world works. You can’t have the economy go into a depression. That’s not a small thing. You go 2-3 months like this and we will actually have a depression.”


Gingrich isn’t the only one who has been eager to shift focus to the economic fallout. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, made similar comments on Monday, as has the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the New York Times’ Tom Friedman, and former Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), who, an aide said, “believes it is important we begin thinking now about how to get those other than the elderly and most vulnerable back to work.”

It is increasingly clear that internal administration strategy is heading in that very direction, as well. In remarks to reporters Sunday, President Trump seemed to indicate that he would soon issue guidance on getting Americans back to work. It’s unclear exactly what those guidelines will say, but officials working with the administration’s coronavirus task force said that retail and manufacturing associations are increasingly asking state governments to designate them as “essential businesses” in an effort to get ahead of any announcement.


The idea, those officials said, is for companies to get their employees back to work as soon as possible. Last week, the CEO of the National Association of Manufacturers sent a letter to several governors asking them to support “designating all manufacturing facilities, supply chains and their employees as ‘essential infrastructure’ and ‘essential businesses’ to assure clear, consistent and more uniformly aligned guidance to businesses as our nation responds to the COVID19 pandemic.”

Other industry associations have also reached out to the White House in an attempt to help frame the debate. The U.S. Chamber Foundation—an association in Washington, D.C. that focuses on U.S. business policies—sent a letter to Trump last week, urging caution with quarantines and mandatory business closures.


“It is important that these orders do not inadvertently harm businesses and services that support the essential infrastructure needed to successfully combat this pandemic,” the letter said.

In the press conference Sunday evening, Vice President Mike Pence also said the administration’s coronavirus task force—in coordination with the Center for Disease Control—would issue guidelines on how people who have been exposed to the virus could return to the workforce by wearing protective masks; an idea that medical experts described as a disaster in waiting.


“That is so bad,” said William Haseltine, president of the global health think tank ACCESS Health International, who recently chaired the U.S.-China Health Summit in Wuhan. “If you want to really spread this infection like crazy, that’s what to do. It’s near insanity.”

Even as the Trump administration alters its approach towards emphasizing restorative economic measures, it has continued having difficulties handling the public health component of the crisis. Senior officials on Trump’s own coronavirus task force are scrambling to gather on-the-ground data on how many medical supplies—such as masks, ventilators, and gloves—exist in the national strategic stockpile, which hospitals are running low, and how the country is going to manufacture or import. Two officials working on supply chain issues during the coronavirus outbreak said the interagency effort to collect basic data is disjointed at best.


“A lot of government agencies are passing the buck,” one official said. “There are some side projects going on, but it’s unclear if there really is a whole-of-government approach to getting this information and then reacting to it in a way that the people who need these supplies get them in a timely fashion.”

Officials told The Daily Beast that the administration does not yet have a grasp on supply chain gaps and how to fix the shortages at hospitals let alone the lack of things like toilet paper and hand sanitizer at grocery stories.

Despite the president leaning toward announcing a plan to get Americans back to work, state representatives said they are not yet changing their current guidelines. Those guidelines, which have included stay at home warnings and shuttering of businesses, schools, and social gatherings, has led to dramatic scenes of long lines at grocery stores, ballooning claims for unemployment insurances, and swamped pharmacies. Those, in turn, have compelled right wing media to begin championing the notion that the pain the virus is causing is less severe than the pain being inflicted by the measures to combat it.


Fox News hosts, in particular, have grown restless with social distancing. Host Laura Ingraham tweeted that doctors “should not be the determinative voices in policy making,” while Fox personality Tomi Lahren tweeted that anti-coronavirus measures would be “far more crippling than the virus.”

Challenges to social distancing have grown among right-wing columnists, too. In a Sunday column, former Bob Dole press secretary Douglas MacKinnon even proposed a national vote on whether to “let the COVID-19 run its course.” The virus has been projected to kill as many as 3.4 percent of those infected and hospitals are already warning that they are being overwhelmed by the number of patients they need to treat.


Right-wing personalities have also stepped up their attacks on Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who has been one of the most visible faces of the administration’s response. While pro-Trump figures have long touted Fauci’s appearance at Trump’s coronavirus press conferences as proof that the administration is succesfully handling the pandemic, that mood began to shift over the weekend, after Fauci appeared to clutch his face in disappointment during a press conference and gave an interviewcritical of Trump’s tone at the briefings.

But for all the agitation to refocus the country’s economy, there is one entity that is remaining cautious about the public health crisis at hand. For now, there’s essentially a universal agreement that the Trump re-election campaign mega-rallies that the president adores so much are on an indefinite hold.


“Nobody is trying to predict what the schedule will look like during this difficult time,” a source close to the campaign said. “Everyone is just adjusting to the current environment, whether it’s more phone banking, messaging [and] communications, press relations, polling, videos [and] commercials, advertising, op-eds, and surrogates doing more media hits.”
 

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I don't like mixing politics with my Jeep stuff because it turns people who would normally be friends into enemies. All I will say is we need term limits BAD! These people like McConnel and Pelosi that hold these positions of power for 30+ years making millions off of special interest groups. They are so out of touch and so corrupt. We need fresh blood and fresh ideas flowing into Washington and once you've done your 16 years you retire and go do speeches or something. Tired of seeing the same 80 year olds bickering and fighting like children while the tax payer suffers.
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