Tire rotation with spare

[D_JT]

Well, obviously, if you buy a separate 5th tire/wheel you have to, or should ask, if there is a tire pressure sensor. Of course, from a dealer/tire shop or whatever, they will tell you if you need one. It's not a big deal and the last one I had at Goodyear was like $60 or so for a new one. And yes. the vehicle should recognize it after a mile or less.

Yikes! $60 for one?! They got you good. I just bought 5 new Schrader TPMS for $23/ea and that was with them being pre programmed.

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[JonMN]

Just a 4 tire rotation for me. I do not put very many miles on per year. Also, any spare in MN is going to get covered in salt after one of our winters. I lowered the stock spare and gave it a coat of Woolwax, so hopefully it will survive.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yikes! $60 for one?! They got you good. I just bought 5 new Schrader TPMS for $23/ea and that was with them being pre programmed.

There is no programming. They either meet the jeep specs or they don't.
I opt for the real MOPAR parts myself.
Cheap is cheap.

 

[D_JT]

There is no programming. They either meet the jeep specs or they don't.
I opt for the real MOPAR parts myself.
Cheap is cheap.

The ones I bought have three different frequencies they can operate on. 314.9 MHz, 315MHz and 433MHz. So they had to be programmed to the correct frequency that Jeep uses. Which would be 433MHz for 21 and newer JL/JT. Also the MOPAR sensors are made by Schrader, just without the upcharge.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The ones I bought have three different frequencies they can operate on. 314.9 MHz, 315MHz and 433MHz. So they had to be programmed to the correct frequency that Jeep uses. Which would be 433MHz for 21 and newer JL/JT. Also the MOPAR sensors are made by Schrader, just without the upcharge.

Wow, they've come a long way!

Let us know how the battery life is.
It takes a lot to get multiple frequencies and good battery power in these - shocked at the low cost.

 

[D_JT]

Wow, they've come a long way!

Let us know how the battery life is.
It takes a lot to get multiple frequencies and good battery power in these - shocked at the low cost.

I was actually a bit surprised. I had read that it might take a few miles of driving before the would register. Something about syncing up or whatnot. These registered instantly.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I was actually a bit surprised. I had read that it might take a few miles of driving before the would register. Something about syncing up or whatnot. These registered instantly.

Mine always synced up within a quarter mile.
Maybe if I find a 5th wheel for my 25 JTMX, I might try one of those............ hmmmmm.
Can't hurt to try on just one wheel. If it fails, very little lost

 

[DanW]

I bought new tires and mounted them on a set of 5 JL XR take offs with the full intention of rotating all 5 tires. I'm running 315/70/17. I actually lost more rear clearance with front leveling springs vs a 35x12.5 spare.

I rotate 5 on my Jeeps but on the Gladiator I may consider leaving the best leftover as a spare and rotating 4. I like rotating 5, though, because when you go to the spare, it is the right diameter with the same amount of tread as the other 3. Also, on the Wrangler, it doesn't look so good having a different tire on the spare mount, but that's not really deeply important.

They also last longer, which is also not a huge deal, since properly aligned Jeeps with 5k rotations tend to be pretty easy on tires in terms of longevity.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I rotate 5 on my Jeeps but on the Gladiator I may consider leaving the best leftover as a spare and rotating 4. I like rotating 5, though, because when you go to the spare, it is the right diameter with the same amount of tread as the other 3. Also, on the Wrangler, it doesn't look so good having a different tire on the spare mount, but that's not really deeply important.

They also last longer, which is also not a huge deal, since properly aligned Jeeps with 5k rotations tend to be pretty easy on tires in terms of longevity.

I like the fact that the spare is ensured as good every 5,000 miles or so!

 

[WILDHOBO]

It’s time for new tires. I’m currently running the oem spare and I m debating getting a new spare to match all the other tires and wheels. One concern is the width of my tires will have my spare sitting lower affecting ground clearance. How many of you have a matching spare that you rotate on the vehicle and is it worth it as for as the longevity of the tires. I should mention I am running 35” tires on a Rubicon.

Mark

I do it with 5 37x12.5 tires. I’ve been doing so for three sets of tires. As far as worth it, it goes both ways. I use all 5, so technically they last 20% longer. But I spend 20% more money. For me it’s more about trusting that my spare is good, since I used it a maximum of 5k miles ago.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Yeah I bought 5 aftermarket wheels and do a 5-tire rotation. My 12.5s definitely protrude lower than stock and are prone to scrapes on shelf drops. I added a hitch insert to protect it (see my profile pic). When I did the Rubicon I strapped the spare in the back seat to protect it (it would have been shredded otherwise)

Is it worth it for cost or longevity? Strictly speaking, no, it’s exactly the same… You buy 5 tires at a time instead of 4 but get 25% more miles before wearing out. Mainly I just want to know my spare wheel and tire are the exact same as what I have on the ground, and I can keep going after a flat without needing to baby anything

I had my 37 under the bed for the rubicon. And for equally hard and harder trails. I have yet to have tire damage from that. They’re pretty damn tough.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Costs are roughly the same over TIME, but you spread the cost out over more years with the 5 tire.
I've had TWO instances where I was thankful I had a matching spare - and did a full rotation.

Consider you blow a tire and it can't be fixed - you'll buy a new matching tire - IF YOU CAN - but it will be unworn, or, you swap on the spare that has the same amount of wear and move on.
You can also just leave the spare on and have the tire with the boo-boo fixed and hang it under the truck instead of having to put it right back on.

I always do a 5 tire rotation bit - it doesn't cost you more at all, and it shoves the time you need new tires off into the future.
The miles are spread over 5 and not 4.

I like that reason as well. If I have a matching one and don’t rotate it, it’s worthless if I either decide on different tires next time, or those are just no longer available.

 

[WILDHOBO]

And rotations are a lot easier - you don't have to raise 2 wheels at a time.

 

[WILDHOBO]

The ones I bought have three different frequencies they can operate on. 314.9 MHz, 315MHz and 433MHz. So they had to be programmed to the correct frequency that Jeep uses. Which would be 433MHz for 21 and newer JL/JT. Also the MOPAR sensors are made by Schrader, just without the upcharge.

But genuine mopar sensors are usually way less than $60 each. And they just work. I guess I’m confused as to why aftermarket would be a better choice.

 

[Stan H]

Not trying to be argumentative but all the tires will be raised at some point during the process .
When I do a rotation I do a cross rotation and start by jacking with 2 Jack's a double cylinder quick jack in the front and my air jack in the diagonal rear . Goes rather quickly . It actually takes the same 20 lugs same amount of lifts. Matter of fact doing only 4 tires I dont have to lug that spare every time. I rotate every 25-30 days. Which is every oil change 5600-6000k
I do get the point that your introducing more rubber into the equation though.

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