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Here's part of the difference - $1,895 base price difference.
Almost 2 grand price drop 24 to 25.

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Yep , I paid 56 for this one in Dec.2020
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I selected the Rubicon for 1 main reason the Dana 44 up front. The rest was as on the lot and it came pretty loaded leather steering wheel with heat , 110 plug inside Alpine stereo 8.4 screen tons of media plug ins.....

I didnt even know about select track or may have hunted for one of those so this one just had rock trac and lockers . I purposely chose the automatic as my left hip isnt the greatest anymore I LOVE a standard but figured it was time to try an auto and love the downhill controlled decent ,which I never had on another vehicle.
For onlookers.....the full time transfer case in a Rubicon is still called RockTrac. The only way to tell difference is the build sheet and the shifter. Can't go by the name alone.
 

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For onlookers.....the full time transfer case in a Rubicon is still called RockTrac. The only way to tell difference is the build sheet and the shifter. Can't go by the name alone.
Also for onlookers, ALL gladiators have a front Dana 44.
 

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Yes, I forgot to add that part.. was thinking wait, that's what all of mine had
Early on there was confusion as people assumed they'd follow the JL with non-rubicon models getting the m186/Dana30. Now even in the JL the willys trim gets the D44.
 

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Early on there was confusion as people assumed they'd follow the JL with non-rubicon models getting the m186/Dana30. Now even in the JL the willys trim gets the D44.
They didn't read press releases, build sheets and so on, I guess.
But then even the automotive blogs and rags got some of the stuff wrong through misinterpreting what was being said.
 

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Also for onlookers, ALL gladiators have a front Dana 44.
Okay boy oh boy y'all are being so Dang technical. I should have said Wide track Dana 44 . Axle which is wider. And yes Rock trac is in or out . 🫠😵💫🤦‍♂️
 

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Okay boy oh boy y'all are being so Dang technical. I should have said Wide track Dana 44 . Axle which is wider. And yes Rock trac is in or out . 🫠😵💫🤦‍♂️
Even still your post is misleading. Max tow, mojave, and Rubicon all get the wider axles (not sure about willys, but 2024+ JL willys get the wide track 44 too). Not trying to be technical, just providing info for those looking to purchase.
 

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Even still your post is misleading. Max tow, mojave, and Rubicon all get the wider axles (not sure about willys, but 2024+ JL willys get the wide track 44 too). Not trying to be technical, just providing info for those looking to purchase.
Well and to lay more back ground to my post in the lot they had 5 sport models and 1 Rubicon and I read the build sheets and none had the wide axle which the Rubicon did and it was the deciding factor even though my wife was hung up on a razzleberry sport this one is Granite metallic gray . (Which isnt the fanciest color ) but I was only concerned with the drivetrain. I didn't even know it had heated seats etc. Until a couple days later 😂
I dont hold it against anyone for making my sparse post more clear.
 

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Wide track Dana 44 . Axle which is wider.

Those must have been pretty basic plain Sports without max tow. The wider axles are a lot more common under the JT these days - most "editions" have them.

(change your wheels and tires and have a similar effect to the wider axles - it's only 0.75" per side.)
 

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Those must have been pretty basic plain Sports without max tow. The wider axles are a lot more common under the JT these days - most "editions" have them.

(change your wheels and tires and have a similar effect to the wider axles - it's only 0.75" per side.)
This was in 2020
 

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This was in 2020
A lot has changed since then! Wow.
still, had any of them had max tow, that would have had the wide axles as well, but in that year, they hadn't released all of those "editions" as of yet. Choices were pretty limited on a lot of things.
 

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Mine was 52K out the door after the discounts and negotiating in 2021 when i got it. no way i could afford a new one today. I barely can afford this one. I will have it for a very long time. Once i have no more payments i will be able to put gas in it.
 

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Mine was 52K out the door after the discounts and negotiating in 2021 when i got it. no way i could afford a new one today. I barely can afford this one. I will have it for a very long time. Once i have no more payments i will be able to put gas in it.
Thanks , that was funny 😁
 

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Once i have no more payments i will be able to put gas in it.
That one made me forget about the heat working on my lawn tractor......
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