Hmm. I didn't know it was that good. I am going to order a 2024 Gladiator. Maybe this will sway me in that direction if they indeed introduce 4xe glad.
It's extremely dependent on each driver's situation. I only drive 7.5 miles each way for my commute (within the all electric range), so my gas engine's RPM's rarely go over zero during the work week. On the weekend though...
According to my friend who works at Jeep, it sounds like the 2024 Gladiator is already in production.
I haven't figured out if leasing still has the household income threshold. Anyone know of someone that leased the Wrangler 4xe that encountered that scenario? I am not sure how folks without higher household incomes can afford $60K+ vehicles. I think leasing the Gladiator 4xe is the way to go and then possibly buying it.
Right. 80-90% of the time I am perfectly fine with a 20 mile range. But once or twice a month I might drive 400 miles to go skiing or the beach. I would be curious to do the math to see where the breakeven point is for sticking with gas if one exceeds X number of miles a month. My electricity is 'free', though, so it's tough not to embrace more power and the occasional 'free' ride. It needs to be able to tow a decent amount, albeit mostly for short distances of less than 50 miles. The 4xe is such a painfully expensive premium, which is why we didn't pull the trigger on the GC/Wrangler 4xe.It's extremely dependent on each driver's situation. I only drive 7.5 miles each way for my commute (within the all electric range), so my gas engine's RPM's rarely go over zero during the work week. On the weekend though...
No income checks on a lease as its the leasing company itself taking the break. This is a loophole in the law currently so leasing basically lets you get the full credit and bypass all the checks and you can then buy it out immediately if you want (read fine print obviously).
Obviously the 4xe added hybrid system weight would have an impact, but the non-hybrid turbocharged 2.0L engine is rated at 24 MPG highway according to the US Dept. of Energy. Here's the way I look at it... you have all the benefits of an electric vehicle for most of your daily grind use, and all the benefits of a gas engine (with powerful supplemental hybrid electric support) for longer trips. It's win / win.
Think of it like a Prius or the new tundra, not a Tesla. It's a gas engine car with electric motors for helping performance/mpgs. The only difference is you can start with a fully charged battery by plugging in to a wall and it will some times run only electric if the computer thinks it's a good idea. Anything you'd do with a gas engine jeep can be done with the 4xe just like you'd do with a gas engine jeep because it still is. People get caught up in all electric range, esave vs hybrid vs electric mode, but just set it to hybrid let it do its thing and enjoy the V8 power. That's what the wife does and she averages high 20s on 37s with a 3" lift on the jlu.
I think it'd be better, especially for truck stuff, if they paired the electrical pieces of the 4xE with the pentastar, or better yet, an NA version of the new inline 6.
I just love the fact that I can "top off" at my house every night. It's so convenient.
That's why the 4xe is tuned for power and not fuel economy. Good fuel economy is a byproduct, the whole point of the wrangler 4xe is the power. People are just used to assuming electric means mpg first, that they don't realize the 4xe is like the Porsche 918, electric for performance, fuel economy is a nice to have.
But the comparison against the 3.6 is not really fair, as at best case the 3.6 can be classified as just fine in the JT. The 5.7 should have been in the JT as an option from day one, but was not b/c of reasons.
The diesel was a 6k option, the 392 a 20k option, so 10k sadly sounds about right when you are getting 3750-7500 off to leave it at 2.5-6.4k. I'd love a 5.7 for 5k but if the diesel is 6k the 5.7 would have easily been 7-8k. The lease loophole is easy money, you'll get 7k out of the 7500 all day every day if you go through Chrysler capital as the fee is only 395 to terminate the lease (and buy it). There is a massive disdain for leasing, but math doesn't lie and while it's a little more work, it's worth the squeeze, especially if you are above the income threshold.
Actually (for example)... according to the Jeep website builder the difference between the 2024 Rubicon 4xe and 2024 Rubicon with V6 & automatic transmission (like what the 4xe has) is currently $6690... or only $2940 if you include the available $3750 tax credit... and that's not taking into account the monthly / lifetime gas $avings. In short... you get MUCH more power and the upgrade pays for itself more and more the longer you own it. Also... your vehicle will be worth more (with higher resale) because it has the 4xe system. It's a no-brainer addition if you can afford it up front. (Side note: In my case the numbers were even better on my 2023 Wrangler 4xe as I got the full $7500 tax credit before they cut it in half.)
