Squished Max Tow rear springs, any better aftermarket options?

[madesicc88]

I overloaded my truck and my rear didn’t bounce back, is the OE max tow springs the best option out there for replacement or are any of the aftermarket HD springs any better?

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[Flyin6]

I would not pretend to know the correct answer to your question, but I do know Clayton makes "Adventure" rear springs for the JT's and possibly the JL???

I run a Clayton 3.5" suspension and yesterday, I switched the "Normal" springs for their "heavier-duty" units meant to carry a roof tent and typical adventure gear loads.

Check out the link to my build, where you can see the "normal" spring alongside the increased capacity unit.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I overloaded my truck and my rear didn’t bounce back, is the OE max tow springs the best option out there for replacement or are any of the aftermarket HD springs any better?

Holy crap - how much did you overload it for something like that to happen??????????!!!!
I had max tow springs under the rear of my 2020 Overland when I owned it - and I ended up, by accident, totally unplanned - blame Menards for having a sale and saying "we have 50 left if you want them all" and then actually having 140 left and they loaded then all............
Anyway, it was overloaded for sure - I'd never do it again, but no harm done. It came back fine after unloading it.
You'd have to bottom out those springs and hold it there in coil bind - and even then it's unlikely they'd not come back.

Like how MUCH does it sit lower now? Pics? measurements?
Springs don't normally do that. Think about the guys that put these springs close to coil bind over and over while articulating in the rocks and don't drop the truck.

IMO, there's something else going on and you were in the extreme danger zone to cause them not to come back if it's truck a spring issue and not something else.
Also IMO, a person is better off with a dual-rate spring under a truck. Something with the low rate for decent ride, keeping the tires planted on the ground, and having a second higher rate for handling the load without a lot of sag.

 

[jeepers29]

Pics please.

 

[Rokon]

Not a very believable scenario……

 

[madesicc88]

All I can go off is measurements, I loaded roughly 2.2k lbs into it, and was on the bumpstops for about 5 miles, I was taking it fairly easy, I measured my hitch height a while ago and it was at 22.5in from the ground, when I got home, I measured and it was 10in from the ground. After unloading it came back to 19in and after a week or so of driving it’s at 19.5. Just had my tires rotated this last weekend and when it was up in the lift, I asked them if I could check it out and didn’t see anything that looked bent to my eyes. So I figured I had just compressed so much that they just didn’t fully extend back out. I have a 2.5 Teraflex lift that just has the small spacer on the rear springs. Truck definitely looks to have a small rake to it now but it could be that I am just seeing things.

 

[madesicc88]

Pics please.

Didn’t get any pics, it was so low though haha.

 

[madesicc88]

Not a very believable scenario……

Haha why would somebody make something like this up? I went off measurements and the measurements are different before and after, the only thought was springs being compressed. Doesn’t seem that crazy of a thought to me, but I’m no internet expert here.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I loaded roughly 2.2k lbs into it,

Sorry but that's just plain nuts and potentially killer dumb for even 1 mile. Running on bump stops? You were asking for broken parts and a bad accident.

There's a truck I'd never consider buying no matter the price.

Don't go by ground up measurements. Go by center of wheel or hub up to some consistent spot on the body. Otherwise you are taking tires/inflation and other stuff into account.
If you have spacers, have you considered that you ruined them?
My Daystar .75" spares "took a set" where the spring settled into them a tad meaning they were only 1/2" spacers after 2 years.

My take - you abused the livin' shit out of that truck.
Max tow springs are fine.
You on the other hand....... hell, i'd not put that into my Silverado 1500!
I carried 2,200 pounds in the back of my F250 4x4 and were on the overload springs the whole trip.
Not sure what the sticker on your door jamb says your payload is but that's possibly 700+ pounds over payload, at least 600 over unless you have 0 options on the truck.

Don't blame the springs. They more than handle what they are supposed to handle. And if I was given that truck, i'd put max tow springs back under it.
The fact you are looking for "better springs" suggests this is a habit of yours.
you could kill someone with a load like that in that little truck.

 

[sharpsicle]

All I can go off is measurements, I loaded roughly 2.2k lbs into it, and was on the bumpstops for about 5 miles, I was taking it fairly easy, I measured my hitch height a while ago and it was at 22.5in from the ground, when I got home, I measured and it was 10in from the ground. After unloading it came back to 19in and after a week or so of driving it’s at 19.5. Just had my tires rotated this last weekend and when it was up in the lift, I asked them if I could check it out and didn’t see anything that looked bent to my eyes. So I figured I had just compressed so much that they just didn’t fully extend back out. I have a 2.5 Teraflex lift that just has the small spacer on the rear springs. Truck definitely looks to have a small rake to it now but it could be that I am just seeing things.

I know this might sound offensive, but based on what you've said so far I would not trust you to know what is or isn't good when looking at the truck. You have no idea what happened but you're ready to throw parts at it anyway. Asking for trouble.

My advice: get someone who does know what they're looking at to check out the truck.

 

[madesicc88]

Sorry but that's just plain nuts and potentially killer dumb for even 1 mile. Running on bump stops? You were asking for broken parts and a bad accident.

There's a truck I'd never consider buying no matter the price.

Don't go by ground up measurements. Go by center of wheel or hub up to some consistent spot on the body. Otherwise you are taking tires/inflation and other stuff into account.
If you have spacers, have you considered that you ruined them?
My Daystar .75" spares "took a set" where the spring settled into them a tad meaning they were only 1/2" spacers after 2 years.

My take - you abused the livin' shit out of that truck.
Max tow springs are fine.
You on the other hand....... hell, i'd not put that into my Silverado 1500!
I carried 2,200 pounds in the back of my F250 4x4 and were on the overload springs the whole trip.
Not sure what the sticker on your door jamb says your payload is but that's possibly 700+ pounds over payload, at least 600 over unless you have 0 options on the truck.

Don't blame the springs. They more than handle what they are supposed to handle. And if I was given that truck, i'd put max tow springs back under it.
The fact you are looking for "better springs" suggests this is a habit of yours.
you could kill someone with a load like that in that little truck.

yes I know it was a mistake. I’m not blaming anything but me, I clearly said I overloaded the truck, my question was if there was anything nicer than the max tow springs. I’m not trying to make my truck haul anything like that again, i am just trying to replace springs that I think I damaged, if max tow springs are the only good option to put back on, I’m fine with that.

 

[Jaxmax]

The spacers would be a great place to really check, also the Max Tow springs on my Mojave are compressed a bit on the top from the cap and fridge in bed I guess, but plastic spacers could have bulged out or compressed. You would think the springs would come back up
since as you were driving you were on the bump stops so they compressed all the way down then the load was on the bump stops. I would really look at the spacers good. That is way too much weight , if you have to do that a lot get a small HD trailer, I did…Jack

 

[madesicc88]

I know this might sound offensive, but based on what you've said so far I would not trust you to know what is or isn't good when looking at the truck. You have no idea what happened but you're ready to throw parts at it anyway. Asking for trouble.

My advice: get someone who does know what they're looking at to check out the truck.

No offense taken, I’m not opposed to having it looked at by a shop, I am simply looking at body gaps and looking to see if anything is noticeably bent or weird tire wear, definitely not a mechanic or anything.

 

[Sandevino]

Haha why would somebody make something like this up? I went off measurements and the measurements are different before and after, the only thought was springs being compressed. Doesn’t seem that crazy of a thought to me, but I’m no internet expert here.

Where are you taking your measurements? Center of the hub to the bottom of the fender is going to be an accurate measurement versus the ground to fender or top of the tire to fender.

As far as why would someone make this up, this is the Internet after all...

 

[madesicc88]

Where are you taking your measurements? Center of the hub to the bottom of the fender is going to be an accurate measurement versus the ground to fender or top of the tire to fender.

As far as why would someone make this up, this is the Internet after all...

The only before measurement that I had was from measuring the bottom of the hitch receiver when I was seeing what kind of drop I needed for a trailer. Definitely not the most accurate but that’s the only number I could go off from before so that’s were I re-measured.
You are correct, this is the internet, and people are nuts.

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