Gorilla Glass. Yes or No?

[AstroZombie]

It has probably been mentioned already but I don't see the point of Gorilla Glass as a paid option...they still crack. My last Jeep never cracked a windshield over three years and I am about to replace my third standard windshield on my Gladiator.

My suggestion...save your money and get a $0 deductible glass coverage on your insurance plan (it's not expensive).

Cheers

not every state offers 0 deductible glass coverage.

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[AstroZombie]

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Damn that's a sexy car!!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

not every state offers 0 deductible glass coverage.

Some states force it - but you actually pay for it. They shouldn't kid themselves. When you FORCE a company to cover and pay for something, do you think the shareholders or board is going to sit back and say, fine, consider it our donation to you fine folks. Heck no - your premiums are higher because of it. So this bit about "I don't have to pay" etc. is one fooling themselves. My son says his expenses for vehicle and home went way up after leaving Iowa for his new home state.
Here, it's an optional coverage in your auto policy. You can have almost any deductible you want, 500, 250, 0, whatever, but the smaller the deductible, the larger your annual premium.
I worked for a major insurance company, and my brother has been involved with the insurance industry for years. Teams of actuaries make really sure that the company can pay out - and make a profit. They must take in more than they pay out....... and there's loss control agents and so on. Two major companies will no longer offer home insurance in a certain state. Multiple reasons - but..........
And right now there are multiple lawsuits related to glass coverage in Florida - it's a big mess.

People must make up their own minds on which way to go - but base it on facts, not the "I hate blah blah type posts. Go in with eyes open, study, get the facts and weigh your costs against odds.
I made my choice after a lot of research. Too many are now screaming not because the product is crap, but because they made a choice based on too little research, too few facts. Humans like to blame others when things go south and they may have had a small part in it.
There's one screaming out there now because of a denied warranty after they modified their Jeep so heavily you likely can't tell it's a Jeep by looking under it. But Jeep, of course, is 100% to blame.

For me, if I can make a fun vehicle safer, too, with a small investment, I will likely do it. Been involved in too many accidents and saw too many things being towed in, or helped people recover belongings from wrecked vehicles - and looked and thought - if only........

But you gotta decide for yourself - your own aversion to risks, ability to handle costs and so on.

Damn that's a sexy car!!

I saw a replica of one of those rally Eagles in Colorado Springs AMO show. There's another out there that had a V8 put in it for the races years ago. Man, there's a lot of bracing under the hood! Those front ends took a pounding.
Think about it - the drivetrain under those cars is basically what Jeep ended up with when Cherokee came out. Dana 35 up front, CV front axles.

 

[RHRT]

Had a GG installed yesterday(#3 replacement since Aug 2022). Other than a lot more printed information on the lower driver side, we shall see if indeed it resists rock strikes better than a OEM windshield. $0 deductible for the windshield and Allstate stated there would be no added charge for the GG vs OEM.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

we shall see if indeed it resists rock strikes better than a OEM windshield. $0 deductible for the windshield and Allstate stated there would be no added charge for the GG vs OEM.

Not another who believes they can tell if it resists rock strikes better or not.
So you get a rock hit and it chips and you'll be jumping back griping that it's as bad as the others - real scientific study. There's no way in @#$% you can tell if a windshield based on whether or not rocks chip or crack is any better or not.
Only scientifically controlled tests in a lab can tell that. Not a Jeep owner no matter their claims of knowing.
You get a hit and there's no chip and you'll come back singing its praises, but let a rock hit and you get a chip or a crack and you'll be bitching that it's crap.

If we based it on your simplistic observations then I have PROOF that GG is superior and resists chips and cracking! Absolute proof!
My 2020 needed its first windshield in under 6 months. The second one came about 2 years after that.
I'm almost a year into my 2022 with GG and gee, no cracks! Only a couple of minor chips I'll get fixed for free, nothing more.
See? Proof!

I guess no one bothers to do the research showing that it's likely to resist 50 to 60%, not that is resists all. So you may get a chip or crack, you may not.
Proves nothing either way.

I got it for the massive safety factor compared to standard windshields. I care about my face, my eyes, my wife's face and her eyes in an accident that causes damage to the windshield. That's where I'll be the winner.
Then there's the minor plus of 30% lighter than standard, de-frosts faster, etc. due to less mass.

It's lighter,
You won't get glass shards in your face if something compromises the inside layer as in an accident, etc.
It de-ices/de-fogs faster due to less mass
It resists 50 to 60% of rock chips/hits - not 100% like people like to believe based on who knows what.
So the odds are with you, but you could still lose. Jeep glass takes a heck of a lot of hits due to physics and geometry.

 

[RHRT]

Wow! That is quite the reply! You really need to ease up a bit. No one takes well to a condescending rebuttal. Although I do appreciate your information and background study on OEM vs GG. Perhaps my next reply/post will be less simplistic.

Good day sir…

 

[Freems]

Thanks. Kind of mirrors my thinking. Although this is my first replacement.

Any other opinions out there?

had my first hard rock hit 2 weeks ago on my OEM glass, took it to the glass shop I’ve been going to for 10 years, while waiting for them to fill the hit, I asked the owner about gorilla glass vs. OEM. He said gorilla glass is the biggest waste of consumers money he’s seen in his business. He said all glass breaks and he replaces just as much gorilla glass as standard OEM glass. Freaked me out a bit in a couple of ways; one, he wasn’t trying to sell me anything, so no reason to BS me. Two, have we been taken in by the marketing beast using the the tuff sounding name “Gorilla”? This stuff grew up in the laptop business starting in 2007, its claim to fame was drop testing, not point impact resistance. Thought this might help.

 

[SpeedNeed]

9/05/2023
The 21-year-old motorist from New Hampshire was following a vehicle that ran over metal debris on the road, sending it flying into her Jeep Wrangler on the said Shannon Moss, spokesperson for the Maine Department of Public Safety. It broke through the windshield just above the steering wheel.

 

[sharpsicle]

9/05/2023
The 21-year-old motorist from New Hampshire was following a vehicle that ran over metal debris on the road, sending it flying into her Jeep Wrangler on the said Shannon Moss, spokesperson for the Maine Department of Public Safety. It broke through the windshield just above the steering wheel.

Yep. I knew the GG was junk!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Yep. I knew the GG was junk!

It was probably a cheap aftermarket glass from China. The day windshields can't withstand missile attacks and simple road debris like 200 pound anvils or the crossmember from a semi tractor, we're in trouble.

Interesting that no one cared about the motorist - "and now, the rest of the story......"

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/09/06/metal-debris-strikes-car-windshield-maine-highway/

 

[RHRT]

We are on windshield #5, counting the original OEM windshield. We had a GG installed about 45 days ago and it finally succumbed to the AZ I-17 with a rock impact that put an 8" crack on the upper passenger side. It did take some very loud rock hits previously with no damage surprisingly. The GG took some hard hits with no pits, stars, or cracks for awhile. Our insurance pays for our windshield replacement with no deductible payment. The GG can be installed if the glass company has stock and we did not have to pay any extra cost. GG is superior in design, glass composition, and is lighter than OEM, but not totally resistant to flying highway debris.

If your insurance company doesn't charge any more than OEM, I suggest you get it installed. Unfortunately for us, the glass company did not have GG in stock, so we now are back to OEM(MOPAR with the Willys Jeep emblem). Next time this one gets cracked(in about 2 months at this rate) we will request GG to replace the OEM.

 

[CreekFreak]

I haven’t even made my first payment ?. Gorilla Glass cracked while driving to work with the defroster on. Anyone had luck with stopping it from running before?

 

[RHRT]

I haven’t even made my first payment ?. Gorilla Glass cracked while driving to work with the defroster on. Anyone had luck with stopping it from running before?

That should still be under warranty for replacement. I know it is frustrating thinking that this might be a good answer to highway damage or even stress cracks but we have found to the contrary that that GG didn't last any longer than regular laminated soda glass. I was shown a different perspective by ShadowsPapa regarding some of my assumptions about GG. Corning has some good videos on GG, but in reality, GG can get damaged just as a Mopar OEM windshield can. It is lighter and the safety aspect is superior to a standard windshield. So the next time our windshield gets Fubared by an AZ highway, I will still be requesting a GG replacement.

 

[Hootbro]

I haven’t even made my first payment ?. Gorilla Glass cracked while driving to work with the defroster on. Anyone had luck with stopping it from running before?

Those types of cracks are hard to stop with a resin windshield repair kit. You can try but the lack of indentation point will be tough.

 

[CreekFreak]

That should still be under warranty for replacement. I know it is frustrating thinking that this might be a good answer to highway damage or even stress cracks but we have found to the contrary that that GG didn't last any longer than regular laminated soda glass. I was shown a different perspective by ShadowsPapa regarding some of my assumptions about GG. Corning has some good videos on GG, but in reality, GG can get damaged just as a Mopar OEM windshield can. It is lighter and the safety aspect is superior to a standard windshield. So the next time our windshield gets Fubared by an AZ highway, I will still be requesting a GG replacement.

I wasn’t really given any information for warranty. The windshield was on the truck when I bought it off the lot. My first Jeep buying experience has been a nightmare. ? so you’re saying GG windshields have some type of factory warranty?

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