That's Actually Not A Bad Deal - Dirt Road Cred / AMW 5.7 Gladiator

[DirkG]

a raptor can't do raptor things either!!

When in a pack, they can open kitchen doors and kick the living crap out of a TRex.

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[Teqsand]

Your tow rating went down because the engine in the JT isn't the limiting factor. Heavier engine = less capacity. If you want torque, your diesel already has more than the 5.7 you're creaming over, and it's available at ~1600 rpm vs ~4000 rpm in the V8.

How many of those badge trails are you planning to run with a V8 at 4000 rpm?

V8s are basically just for boomer sales at this point, a population that is declining.

You can call it boomers if you want (they created about everything you use and rely on), but the aenemic 3.6 doeant cut it and unless we get diesel back, the 5 7 is a damn sight better than ths 3.6 or the 2.0 or the Duracell version....

 

[DirkG]

You can call it boomers if you want (they created about everything you use and rely on), but the aenemic 3.6 doeant cut it and unless we get diesel back, the 5 7 is a damn sight better than ths 3.6 or the 2.0 or the Duracell version....

I've seen the test mule pics of the JT 4xe. We have a 2025 Willys 4xe JL and I honestly can't see the 4xe - as currently engineered / spec'd - being a successful powertrain for the longer wheelbased, heavier Gladiator. Especially if towing or having any type of heavy payload.

I'm sure there are stats that may say otherwise, but we live in a hilly part of the OC, and the hills suck the battery power down considerably. Yes regen braking helps somewhat, but that "30" miles is more like 20 at best.

For the Wrangler, it works pretty well (still wish for more juice), but they're going to have to engineer more electric mileage or more hp from electric + turbo-I4 to properly motivate the Gladiator.

 

[gonemad]

I just want a CJ5 with a 304 and side pipes. I remember them when they were new.

*sigh*

 

[JeepOfTheseus]

The basic intent of the California engine change laws is that when you do an engine swap, the new engine/transmission cannot pollute more than the original engine/transmission.

Isn’t that basically the issue? Even with the emission regulations in place, a V8 is going to pollute more based on gas efficiency alone.

 

[bill61]

Not that the 5.7 is going to be a raging powerhouse but it seems to me it would push the Gladiator on the streets and highways easier than the 3.6.
Maybe if they simply started down the turbo charged engine road that Ford has they can meet emissions and increase the power wants of many consumers?
I would like to see a 4XE JT with a turbo charged 3.6 instead of the 2.0.

 

[Onebadv2]

Raptor pricing for a midsize truck that can't do Raptor things lol

But I think Raptors are ugly.

 

[Sandman 4x4]

What does a V8 do for you in those slow, tight situations?

Did you read the original post I commented on?

 

[Lunentucker]

Not that the 5.7 is going to be a raging powerhouse but it seems to me it would push the Gladiator on the streets and highways easier than the 3.6.
Maybe if they simply started down the turbo charged engine road that Ford has they can meet emissions and increase the power wants of many consumers?
I would like to see a 4XE JT with a turbo charged 3.6 instead of the 2.0.

My 2.7 turbo on the Canyon makes the JT memories even more anemic.
The Canyon has its issues in other places, but power sure isn't one of them.

 

[JTGuy]

So why do I keep modding my JT. When is it time to go. My trans will be the next thing to go.

 

[Mojave2021]

Isn’t that basically the issue? Even with the emission regulations in place, a V8 is going to pollute more based on gas efficiency alone.

I was able to get around this by installing a CARB certified E-Rod LS3 engine in my 1977 Trans Am. But they’re only allowed to be installed in vehicles pre 1995 (no idea why they selected that year).

You need to work very closely with a state smog ref before throwing $s down on an engine swap. There are some ways to get them approved but not something to do after the purchase and swap completion. I don’t hear much about approved CA swaps though, so I’m curious how many are really approved.

 

[JTGuy]

There are. a few places doing JT V8 swaps. Calling them they say not registered in calif. Or,,, I got a guy that can get you passed,,,, $$$.

 

[BlackRuby23]

My 2.7 turbo on the Canyon makes the JT memories even more anemic.
The Canyon has its issues in other places, but power sure isn't one of them.

That thing looks milquetoast. Not only do I think my 3.6 Pentastar is a perfectly suitable engine, I like looking out the window and seeing my Gladiator in the driveway. It's an awesome looking rig. That Colorado on the other hand......uh....boooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiinnnnng.....

 

[Splenda]

That thing looks milquetoast. Not only do I think my 3.6 Pentastar is a perfectly suitable engine, I like looking out the window and seeing my Gladiator in the driveway. It's an awesome looking rig. That Colorado on the other hand......uh....boooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiinnnnng.....

I wonder if it's a Denali. I wish they had written it on the vehicle somewhere.

 

[BlackRuby23]

I wonder if it's a Denali. I wish they had written it on the vehicle somewhere.

I always forget that the GMC is a Canyon, not a Colorado.

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