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[Stan H]

You could just say you didn’t watch the video

I watched every minute was in total
a-g-o-n-y the whole time . If it had been 1 minute longer I would have had to gouge my eyes out with a blue crayon and take the broken pieces and shove em in my ears
P.S. @Hootbro How did I do

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[InvertedLogic]

I watched every minute was in total
a-g-o-n-y the whole time . If it had been 1 minute longer I would have had to gouge my eyes out with a blue crayon and take the broken pieces and shove em in my ears
P.S. @Hootbro How did I do

You need to get those ears checked then because you took away the literal opposite meaning of the entire video than the video actually says which is actually impressive

 

[Stan H]

You need to get those ears checked then because you took away the literal opposite meaning of the entire video than the video actually says which is actually impressive

Oh I gotta it just right . I believe your using inverted logic.

 

[Hootbro]

I watched every minute was in total
a-g-o-n-y the whole time . If it had been 1 minute longer I would have had to gouge my eyes out with a blue crayon and take the broken pieces and shove em in my ears
P.S. @Hootbro How did I do

6/10 but we are still not at half time yet. Hit the showers and come back onto the playing field with some better rant content. I believe in you.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

6/10 but we are still not at half time yet. Hit the showers and come back onto the playing field with some better rant content. I believe in you.

Had a cup of that Irish coffee again?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

You need to get those ears checked then because you took away the literal opposite meaning of the entire video than the video actually says which is actually impressive

One video that people seem to watch/listen to with selective hearing is the one from The Motor Oil Geek talking of the GM engine issue. At first glance, you'd think he was blaming the oil, even in the video if you aren't careful, you could walk away thinking he's blaming the oil. You have to pay really close attention, watch the whole thing and be careful.
It's a good video, but I bet a lot of people caught only what they wanted to catch out of it. Even this week there were comments mentioning GM's little engine problem and saying "it was the oil". I guess they weren't paying attention.

 

[Sot]

% correct in the video I posted the technicians explained that even there base oils in the synthetic although superior to non -sythetic still over time degrade when oxygen molecules get attached . ALL oil wears out . But some just not as fast. Because the ones that use higher grade BASE molecules have higher shear they will protect better. That is why I use what I use. I literally shook my head and chuckled about oil is oil comment .

Oil is oil. It never breaks down. It will burn. Then of course it's no good . It's all the additives these companies put in it that breaks down. Surly you don't think what you bought in a jug is what comes out of the ground.. crude oil never breaks down. .

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Oil is oil. It never breaks down. It will burn. Then of course it's no good . It's all the additives these companies put in it that breaks down. Surly you don't think what you bought in a jug is what comes out of the ground.. crude oil never breaks down. .

And yet I have posted article bits here that directly contradict what you say - yes, the molecular structure can break down. It absolutely can. The chains can be modified by heat and pressure, oxidizing the base oil, changing the structure, reducing viscosity.

Note the words BASE OIL-

Note these words -
BASE OIL MOLECULES.
Even the videos explain that various grades of base oil resist breakdown better than others. Viscosity index improvers help negate the breakdown of the viscosity of the base oil. PAOs resist this breakdown better.

Videos by The Motor Oil Geek where he shows the base oil breaking down by shear forces. Heat is also a cause of base oil breakdown.

You can't say it will never break down as it can and will depending on the conditions and I'm not talking about burning.

Oil that is recycled is generally broken down and re-refined into other products for heating, burning, machinery lubrication, road tar additives and more.
Only some of it can be re-used as engine oil due to the breakdown of the base.
What gets recycled is also often a mix of hydraulic oil, ATF, gear lubes and engine oil.

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Oil is oil. It never breaks down. It will burn. Then of course it's no good . It's all the additives these companies put in it that breaks down. Surly you don't think what you bought in a jug is what comes out of the ground.. crude oil never breaks down. .

This is true. It gets filtered, additives put in, gets bottled and it’s back in your engine again….repeat.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

This is true. It gets filtered, additives put in, gets bottled and it’s back in your engine again….repeat.

Funny shit right there.

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Funny shit right there.

Glad it makes you laugh.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Glad it makes you laugh.

I hope you don't REALLY think oil is oil and it just needs to be filtered, cleaned and additives put back in.

Even after what's been posted about BASE OIL breaking down?

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Here is one company in Canada that does it. Mind blowing isn’t it.

 

[sharpsicle]

Here is one company in Canada that does it. Mind blowing isn’t it.

It doesn’t say it turns back into the exact same oil used before. A new product doesn’t mean the same product.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Here is one company in Canada that does it. Mind blowing isn’t it.

LOL = no, I know oil is RECYCLED, but it's not just filtered because the BASE STOCK can and often IS broken down. It must be re-refined and the molecules restructured to become any good again.

Did you read what I posted about it breaking down?

The recycling into "new lubricating oil" is often NOT engine oil, but is lighter oils for lubricating hinges or other things, or made into additives for tar and blacktop, or many other things oil can be used for.
But it's not filtered and given new additives and put back in your engine.
Lubricating oil can mean a lot of things. The whole molecular structure can be changed in the base oil. It must go through special processes.

Again - take note of this - *(from BITOG)
the base lube stocks can be hydrotreated to reform to desirable chain lengths, and oxidative double bonds broken and re-saturated with hydrogen. But, in its sheared back and partially oxidized state, it's also of decreased or outrightly marginal lube value (depending on how badly it's been beaten by over-extended drain intervals) until it's re-refined through hydrotreating. Used motor oil is not the same as crude out of the ground, but it can nevertheless be treated with the same processes to effectively restore its purity and lube qualities. I'm speaking of the paraffin lube molecules in Group I, Group II, and Group III base lube stocks

It has to basically be re-refined. Its value as an oil or lube is marginal at best unless rebuilt again - literally, the molecular structure re-formed. A lot of it goes into road making materials, tar products, and home heating oil.
The bulk of what's recycled isn't coming back as engine oil, at least in the states.

the percentage of used engine oil that is re-refined and reused as engine oil is relatively low, estimated at around 10-15%

In Europe it's higher due to their strict standards over there, but it still is re-refined, not just filtered. They are basically taking junk oil and making oil out of it.

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