0W-40 in PUG 3.6

[ShadowsPapa]

Some say that heavy weight can be to much for the lifters. We all know oil is oil. It's also a matter of all the crazy additives they put in them. Oil never breaks down only the additives. That's why oil can be recycled.

Love that "we all know oil is oil" and "oil never breaks down".
Not entirely true.
The base oils can break down, and do, the molecular structure changed.
As far as recycling - yes, but not for things you might think.
It's quite a process and since the base oils are almost anything from 1 to 3 and from engine to hydraulic fluids to ATF, there's a lot to it.

It's really simple to find things like this in scientific articles - so oil isn't oil and yes, the BASE OIL can indeed break down.

Although distinctly different, thermal failure, oxidation and the effects of compressive heating all result in a change in the fundamental chemistry of the base oil molecules; this change can have significant impacts on the lubricant’s ability to do its job.

Thermal failure typically occurs when the base oil comes in contact with hot surfaces within the oil-wetted path or due to a sudden and rapid increase in temperature associated with the adiabatic compression of entrained air bubbles in pumps, bearings and other pressurized lubrication environments.

When this occurs, the layer of oil that comes in contact with the hot machine surface or compressed air bubble can chemically change.


So much for oil is oil and it never breaks down.
Yes, it can be "re-refined" but it's a small fraction that actually is suitable for use as engine oil again.
It's not just the additives and chemicals that can break down. So can the base oil itself.

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[Stan H]

Love that "we all know oil is oil" and "oil never breaks down".
Not entirely true.
The base oils can break down, and do, the molecular structure changed.
As far as recycling - yes, but not for things you might think.
It's quite a process and since the base oils are almost anything from 1 to 3 and from engine to hydraulic fluids to ATF, there's a lot to it.

It's really simple to find things like this in scientific articles - so oil isn't oil and yes, the BASE OIL can indeed break down.

Although distinctly different, thermal failure, oxidation and the effects of compressive heating all result in a change in the fundamental chemistry of the base oil molecules; this change can have significant impacts on the lubricant’s ability to do its job.

Thermal failure typically occurs when the base oil comes in contact with hot surfaces within the oil-wetted path or due to a sudden and rapid increase in temperature associated with the adiabatic compression of entrained air bubbles in pumps, bearings and other pressurized lubrication environments.

When this occurs, the layer of oil that comes in contact with the hot machine surface or compressed air bubble can chemically change.


So much for oil is oil and it never breaks down.
Yes, it can be "re-refined" but it's a small fraction that actually is suitable for use as engine oil again.
It's not just the additives and chemicals that can break down. So can the base oil itself.

% correct in the video I posted the technicians explained that even there base oils in the synthetic although superior to non -sythetic still over time degrade when oxygen molecules get attached . ALL oil wears out . But some just not as fast. Because the ones that use higher grade BASE molecules have higher shear they will protect better. That is why I use what I use. I literally shook my head and chuckled about oil is oil comment .

 

[kevman65]

Twice used Wesson oil gets you 25 more HP............

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Orville Redenbacher's oil will blow the top right off the pistons.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Twice used Wesson oil gets you 25 more HP............

Just about quadrupling the HP of the 3.6?

 

[chr15m]

Remember, a Diet Coke is just a fridge cigarette...

Get that printed, shirt or a sticker, it'd sell.

 

[sharpsicle]

Get that printed, shirt or a sticker, it'd sell.

If only I could claim credit. It's already out there.

 

[InvertedLogic]

To build on this

 

[Stan H]

To build on this

Quack Quack Quack . If one was to take this guy's " Opinion" to heart then we all should rush right out and get some thicker oil . Geesh is this guy for reals ?? maybe just maybe I should start using 20W-50

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Quack Quack Quack . If one was to take this guy's " Opinion" to heart then we all should rush right out and get some thicker oil . Geesh is this guy for reals ?? maybe just maybe I should start using 20W-50

Some of the comments below it really nail it down - the mistake here is the finish was the issue as much as anything.......... the finish was too course, requiring heavier oil until it was corrected, then go back to the proper oil ->

And the EE guy himself says oil viscosity was not the problem -

As some of us have been saying since forever - viscosity is not the problem, thus it can't be the answer.

 

[Stan H]

Some of the comments below it really nail it down - the mistake here is the finish was the issue as much as anything.......... the finish was too course, requiring heavier oil until it was corrected, then go back to the proper oil ->

And the EE guy himself says oil viscosity was not the problem -

As some of us have been saying since forever - viscosity is not the problem, thus it can't be the answer.

Wear in period , hmm well see thats what I sorta think is the cam deal with these. Its a fit or finish , some were missed due to bad manufacturing or lack of quality control in the hhardness or the heads etc. They know what it is just aint going say. Hopefully the replacement kits meet a higher standard that some one us got in our engines from the get go.

 

[sharpsicle]

And the EE guy himself says oil viscosity was not the problem -

You know, this type of blatant clickbait tactic should be considered unlawful misrepresentation. These guys get away with far too much.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

You know, this type of blatant clickbait tactic should be considered unlawful misrepresentation. These guys get away with far too much.

This image is what I hate about what YT has become - they lead you on in this sort of thing.
Just tell it like it is in the trailer or first image - "I demonstrate why thin oil is not the problem" - but then that won't get as many clicks as this one. That bit- "lessons from GM........." that's blatant click bait. There are no lessons to be learned from GM other than - VISCOSITY is not the problem. Why not just say that?
Sorry, my ADHD mind just can't handle beating around the bush and click bait bull crap. Just come out with it - SAY IT right up front, THEN prove it. But that doesn't make money.

 

[InvertedLogic]

Quack Quack Quack . If one was to take this guy's " Opinion" to heart then we all should rush right out and get some thicker oil . Geesh is this guy for reals ?? maybe just maybe I should start using 20W-50

You could just say you didn’t watch the video

 

[Hootbro]

This image is what I hate about what YT has become - they lead you on in this sort of thing.
Just tell it like it is in the trailer or first image - "I demonstrate why thin oil is not the problem" - but then that won't get as many clicks as this one. That bit- "lessons from GM........." that's blatant click bait. There are no lessons to be learned from GM other than - VISCOSITY is not the problem. Why not just say that?
Sorry, my ADHD mind just can't handle beating around the bush and click bait bull crap. Just come out with it - SAY IT right up front, THEN prove it. But that doesn't make money.

I give you a 8/10 score on the rant Bill. Need to work on throwing in a few F-Bombs to bump up the score next time.

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