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Wouldn’t it be great if there was a 4xe section so people could discuss it instead of using a V8JT thread?
Oh wait - 🙃
there isn't even a V8 JT, so why is it even being talked about at all?
 

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I personally like the 3.6L but if I was forced to choose an alternative I would take a in-line 6 with a larger bore and stroke .. more torque .
 

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I personally like the 3.6L but if I was forced to choose an alternative I would take a V6 with a larger bore and stroke .. more torque .
Yea, at this point its a crapshoot with any powerplant they drop into the jt. At least the 5.7 is less complex. The 3.0 hurricane looks very promising but who knows what its longevity will be and the learning curve to maintain it. Is the quality department that oversees cylinder head components for the 3.6 also overseeing quality for the turbos and other components? I like the 3.6 too aside from engine tic anxiety. Hopefully it lasts like it should?
 

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Yea, at this point its a crapshoot with any powerplant they drop into the jt. At least the 5.7 is less complex. The 3.0 hurricane looks very promising but who knows what its longevity will be and the learning curve to maintain it. Is the quality department that oversees cylinder head components for the 3.6 also overseeing quality for the turbos and other components? I like the 3.6 too aside from engine tic anxiety. Hopefully it lasts like it should?
If the 3.0 hurricane is anything like the 4.0 straight 6 in my TJ, I would love to have one. But other than both having 6 spark plugs in a row, I would expect that the similarity ends right there.
 

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If the 3.0 hurricane is anything like the 4.0 straight 6 in my TJ, I would love to have one. But other than both having 6 spark plugs in a row, I would expect that the similarity ends right there.
Its a pretty cool powerplant with way more torque and horsepower than the 4.0 and probably quite a bit lighter even with 2 small turbos.
 

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This is something I haven't heard before is using the revised 2.0T in the 2026 JT.
For 2026 the 2.0L is now the GME T4 EVO instead of GME T4 increasing power from 270HP to 300HP.

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Yea, at this point its a crapshoot with any powerplant they drop into the jt. At least the 5.7 is less complex. The 3.0 hurricane looks very promising but who knows what its longevity will be and the learning curve to maintain it. Is the quality department that oversees cylinder head components for the 3.6 also overseeing quality for the turbos and other components? I like the 3.6 too aside from engine tic anxiety. Hopefully it lasts like it should?
To date, the hurricane has been installed in production vehicles for 3 model years. Not a whole lot of time, but I'm curious - are we seeing complaints in the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer or Ram or Charger forums?

Some sources have said the 5.7 was to be killed off because of the age of the technology, tooling and so on - that it was getting expensive to modify for the future. I suppose similar reasons the 4.0 eventually was killed off - old design, not future-proof.

Whatever - I guess we'll see what we see, and only those doing the real research, market research, know of real demands and "is xyz worth it" or not.

Its a pretty cool powerplant with way more torque and horsepower than the 4.0 and probably quite a bit lighter even with 2 small turbos.
The 4.0 was a heavy engine. Less than 50 pounds lighter than the 360, for example.
I seem to recall discussions in the AMC and Eagle forums that it was about 515 pounds while the AMC V8 of the time was bout 540-550 pounds (long block)
(All Gen II AMC engines weighed about the same, give or take for bore size)

An aluminum head would make a huge difference, and it was a legacy block design, designed from the ground up to be a light truck engine. As much as I really love my mild build 4,0, I have no thoughts of ever comparing it to a modern I6, especially the hurricane. It was among the best in its time period, they can be forced to put out over 800 hp, but it's still a heavy old design from the past.
 

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This is something I haven't heard before is using the revised 2.0T in the 2026 JT.
For 2026 the 2.0L is now the GME T4 EVO instead of GME T4 increasing power from 270HP to 300HP.

1760760570353-9k.webp
I’ve heard rumors (yeah, I know) that this GME T4 EVO is going to be pushing 324 hp. No word on torque numbers. Supposedly there’s a press embargo ending on Oct. 28th and then info. will be coming out.
 

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While I know some people are happy/satisfied with the 3.6 another 50+ hp would be the ticket for me. Otherwise why trade in my 2020?
 

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I’ve heard rumors (yeah, I know) that this GME T4 EVO is going to be pushing 324 hp. No word on torque numbers. Supposedly there’s a press embargo ending on Oct. 28th and then info. will be coming out.
The big rumor around here is that amosmoses will never purchase a new or used gladiator with a turbo 4 cylinder. Ive also heard rumblings that he is not even remotely curious about the torque numbers.
 

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Let's do a new slant 6 design. That was a killer design. Built for over 20 years.
 

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The big rumor around here is that amosmoses will never purchase a new or used gladiator with a turbo 4 cylinder. Ive also heard rumblings that he is not even remotely curious about the torque numbers.
And your source for that rumor? 🤔 🤔 :LOL:
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