Welp now we know who buys these things

[Zachanadandy]

You know a 6x6 Gladiator in stockish trim would make me go "oh that's pretty dumb but also interesting"

But then they just vomit all over it and I really don't get it

Drop the 24s, grumper, fenders, lights. Etc but give me the 6x6 with the hellcat powertrain and it would be a blast. I know just how much more stable at speed in the desert the JT is than the JLU, add another axle, suspension, and wheelbase to that and 750hp and it would be fun as hell. Of course it's more show than go for most buyers, so you'll never see one bombing across the desert.

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[Zachanadandy]

I've seen these when I was in Florida during The Vid. They look cool at first, until you realize they can't turn, go off-road (maybe sand, IF they have both rear axles live), and are SLOW AS FUCK.

People with these things have more money than brains, and love gloating it too. Sure they "donate to charities" but remember, it's all a tax write-off. Sports players make WAY too much money, then bitch they don't make enough when they blow it all and realize they're just like the rest of us.

Just because you see the show boaters that would buy these overpriced rigs cruising around slow AF for clout doesn't make them slow. 750hp and maybe 700lbs heavier than a v6 JL means the things a rocket by comparison. Not only is the added axle live, it's got a locker too. Turning wouldn't be good in a 6x6, but 6 wheel drive and plenty of horsepower would be fun in mud, sand, snow, or open desert. Obviously not rock crawling or running tight trails, but I would use the hell out of one everywhere else. Probably tows very well with dual rear axles too.

 

[MrBones]

Does it come with spinning hubcaps? Asking for a friend.

 

[DirkG]

I went to the Apocolypse site. It says 3 engine options:

Turbo Diesel (460 FT LBS)
HEMI 392 (505 HP)
Supercharged Hellcat (800 HP)

That Turbo Diesel rating is close to stock (442 lbs.). For those that own a JT Diesel, can that engine motivate this behemoth?

 

[spanishmack]

Does it come with spinning hubcaps? Asking for a friend.

They spinnin'!!

 

[Zachanadandy]

I went to the Apocolypse site. It says 3 engine options:

Turbo Diesel (460 FT LBS)
HEMI 392 (505 HP)
Supercharged Hellcat (800 HP)

That Turbo Diesel rating is close to stock (442 lbs.). For those that own a JT Diesel, can that engine motivate this behemoth?

This "behemoth" likely weighs and drives the same as a regular gladiator with an empty utility trailer behind it. Even the v6 could get the job done. Most limos are stretched 5x as much and run stock powertrain. If you're spending the ridiculous money they charge to build you one I'd go straight for the hellcat, but it's certainly not necessary (neither is a 6x6 gladiator in the 1st place).

 

[Bandit’s Lair]

If they changed up the rear end so it had a bit more space this would be a killer overlandy type of vehicle. Imagine all that space with a full bed for activities!!!!

 

[Dilly’S Willy]

This "behemoth" likely weighs and drives the same as a regular gladiator with an empty utility trailer behind it. Even the v6 could get the job done. Most limos are stretched 5x as much and run stock powertrain. If you're spending the ridiculous money they charge to build you one I'd go straight for the hellcat, but it's certainly not necessary (neither is a 6x6 gladiator in the 1st place).

I actually know someone who built Limos for a local company where I grew up. Converted Navigators, Suburbans, H3s, and more. Yes they kept the same powertrain, yes they stretch the shit outta them, yes they charge a ridiculous amount. But they also generally cruise at lower speeds/speed limit, take their sweet time to get there, and don't do crazy shit like you'd expect a 6x6 to be able to do.

And adding 700+hp to axles/lockers that already break with a low powered v6...yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up. Also that added 700lbs is just the engine/transmission alone. They add more weight than that. The curb weight is around 8,000lbs, so basically the weight of a modern 3500 dually diesel loaded out. I know the owner doesn't care about that, but whatever makes THEM happy I guess.

 

[Zachanadandy]

I actually know someone who built Limos for a local company where I grew up. Converted Navigators, Suburbans, H3s, and more. Yes they kept the same powertrain, yes they stretch the shit outta them, yes they charge a ridiculous amount. But they also generally cruise at lower speeds/speed limit, take their sweet time to get there, and don't do crazy shit like you'd expect a 6x6 to be able to do.

And adding 700+hp to axles/lockers that already break with a low powered v6...yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up. Also that added 700lbs is just the engine/transmission alone. They add more weight than that. The curb weight is around 8,000lbs, so basically the weight of a modern 3500 dually diesel loaded out. I know the owner doesn't care about that, but whatever makes THEM happy I guess.

The d44s hold up decent to the 392 in the wrangler with its 470hp, adding a 3rd axle with the 750hp makes for about the same load on each axle. The transmission weighs the same as the ones they replace and the engine weighs ~200lbs more. Not 700. With the axle and the stretch they might add 1,000 lbs to the truck. I'd trust the 6x6 setup in a hard launch over the 392s stock setup. I'm not saying it's a perfect build, or that it's worth anywhere near what they charge. But arguing that it's slow is comical at best. The JT isn't slow in stock form (could be better but 6.5s 0-60 is decent). This thing has more traction and 3x the power. Even if they added 5k pound it would still be quicker than the JT or any of the 3500 duallies in it's weight class.

 

[RudeJeepin]

Just because you see the show boaters that would buy these overpriced rigs cruising around slow AF for clout doesn't make them slow. 750hp and maybe 700lbs heavier than a v6 JL means the things a rocket by comparison. Not only is the added axle live, it's got a locker too. Turning wouldn't be good in a 6x6, but 6 wheel drive and plenty of horsepower would be fun in mud, sand, snow, or open desert. Obviously not rock crawling or running tight trails, but I would use the hell out of one everywhere else. Probably tows very well with dual rear axles too.

I was thinking it would make for a good camper platform. Good chance nothing on the market would fit. But if you got the scratch to have that built, you probably got enough to have a nice topper/camper built fornut also.
Then you could tow a well built LJ or JL behind, to do the serious ro k crawling.

 

[RudeJeepin]

I went to the Apocolypse site. It says 3 engine options:

Turbo Diesel (460 FT LBS)
HEMI 392 (505 HP)
Supercharged Hellcat (800 HP)

That Turbo Diesel rating is close to stock (442 lbs.). For those that own a JT Diesel, can that engine motivate this behemoth?

I have a mostly stock JTRD, except 35s. It has no problem towing a 4000 pound 7x14 extra height cargo trailer behind it.
So, if the turbo diesel is a tuned EcoDiesel, I'd say, it'll do fine.
But if it was my money I was stupidly spending, I'd go SC Hellcat. Well actually I'd go with a built 502 chev.

 

[Stan H]

He is lucky to have the money to get what he wants from playing a sport so well.

It is not my style but if he is happy with it good for him it looks to have some nice custom work on the body. Amazing grafting of the bed to the cab i wonder how they reinforced it to prevent it from flexing. I have seen a few 6 wheel gladiators but none with so much custom work and detail kind of a shame to hide all that work with the flat paint. I am always impressed when you come across a custom car, truck or whatever how enthusiastic owners and builders usually are to show you every detail.

Yeah gets paid to git a ball, society is completely upside down.
I personally feel LEO'S, EMS, Firefighters should be the highest paid people in the land of course people dont place bets on who will loose their life next sacrificing for society on a daily basis .

 

[Zachanadandy]

Yeah gets paid to git a ball, society is completely upside down.
I personally feel LEO'S, EMS, Firefighters should be the highest paid people in the land of course people dont place bets on who will loose their life next sacrificing for society on a daily basis .

It's not the bets that pay their salaries. It's their own revenue generated. The teams still turn a profit paying these massive salaries. From TV revenue to jersey sales to tickets. The only way you're making public servant salaries look anything like that is by massive tax increases or selling tickets to the next emergency call, neither of which do I support even a little. The pros generate the product that earns the money and only the top performers get the big pay days. I'd absolutely support that in the public sector. Instead of tenure and guaranteed raises give the top performers the top pay and the average ones league minimum. And terminate the bad ones immediately. Of course not 1 public servant supports that level of accountability in their performance tied to their pay for some reason?

 

[RudeJeepin]

Of course not 1 public servant supports that level of accountability in their performance tied to their pay for some reason?

That isn't true, I'd support that. I'd also bet the top performers would also. But unfortunately, the ones that tend to make the rules, aren't the top performers, so they wouldn't support it.

I've said for years that we need to take 10% of the salary away from the highest paid government employees. Then take that and evenly spread it out between the lowest 25%.

 

[Zachanadandy]

That isn't true, I'd support that. I'd also bet the top performers would also. But unfortunately, the ones that tend to make the rules, aren't the top performers, so they wouldn't support it.

I've said for years that we need to take 10% of the salary away from the highest paid government employees. Then take that and evenly spread it out between the lowest 25%.

I'm about as merit based as they come. Take it from the highest paid and give it to the highest performers. Not everyone should make the same money. So long as they make sure it's the bottom performers at the lowest pay there's no reason to bring their salary up. I think we've all had interactions with people that feel like they'd be over paid at minimum wage. Wage disparity is a great thing when merit based. When it's nepotism, seniority, or how many pairs of knee pads they go through in the bosses office then it's rightly demotivating. Ultimately everyone should be paid based of the value they bring to their company in my opinion.

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