How to configure Gladiator for 7650 Towing Capacity ?

[jph-missouri]

When you configure the Gladiator Rubicon model and look at the specifications , the towing capacity comes out to be 7000 lbs. Is the 7650 lbs available on the Rubicon? The only models that after you configure them that show a 7650 lb. towing capacity are the Gladiator Sport and Sport S.

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[TamuPatriot]

When you configure the Gladiator Rubicon model and look at the specifications , the towing capacity comes out to be 7000 lbs. Is the 7650 lbs available on the Rubicon? The only models that after you configure them that show a 7650 lb. towing capacity are the Gladiator Sport and Sport S.

Only the "max tow" package will get you to the coveted 7650 lb towing capacity. That package is not available on the Rubicon model.

 

[jph-missouri]

Is it me or does the Gladiator advertisement seem a little misleading. I was told by my salesperson that the the maximum tow package was already a part of the Rubicon tow package. He showed / told me that the maximum tow package was not an option for the Rubicon because the components of the maximum tow package were automatically included in the Rubicon tow package. It seems that the dealers/ salespeople are not really sure about building specifications themselves.

 

[RNR138]

I believe the Rubicon suspension and weight are impacting the payload and towing capacity.

 

[Renegade]

Is it me or does the Gladiator advertisement seem a little misleading. I was told by my salesperson that the the maximum tow package was already a part of the Rubicon tow package. He showed / told me that the maximum tow package was not an option for the Rubicon because the components of the maximum tow package were automatically included in the Rubicon tow package. It seems that the dealers/ salespeople are not really sure about building specifications themselves.

1. Assume that your salesman knows less than you about the Jeep you are talking about.
2. See rule #1.

 

[WXman]

Is it me or does the Gladiator advertisement seem a little misleading. I was told by my salesperson that the the maximum tow package was already a part of the Rubicon tow package. He showed / told me that the maximum tow package was not an option for the Rubicon because the components of the maximum tow package were automatically included in the Rubicon tow package. It seems that the dealers/ salespeople are not really sure about building specifications themselves.

He's wrong.

I believe the Rubicon suspension and weight are impacting the payload and towing capacity.

This is correct.

The heavier mass of the Rubicon model subtracts from it's GVWR, which is why it has a much lower payload and towing capacity. The higher ride height doesn't help matters.

As mentioned, only the Sport can be equipped with the 1,650 lb. payload and the 7,650 lb. towing. It is pretty confusing, because it's ONE specific model that can reach those numbers, but anytime you hear Gladiator advertising they throw those numbers out while they're showing pictures of Rubicons.

 

[Dietruck]

He's wrong.



This is correct.

The heavier mass of the Rubicon model subtracts from it's GVWR, which is why it has a much lower payload and towing capacity. The higher ride height doesn't help matters.

As mentioned, only the Sport can be equipped with the 1,650 lb. payload and the 7,650 lb. towing. It is pretty confusing, because it's ONE specific model that can reach those numbers, but anytime you hear Gladiator advertising they throw those numbers out while they're showing pictures of Rubicons.

It does get confusing but all truck makers do the same thing. You will find max tow for the others are never the 4x4 versions. (JT only is offered in 4x4) The highest I saw for the off road version on other manufacturers was 5000 lbs vs. the rubicons 7000 lbs.

 

[fourlow78]

I am certainly interested in finding out if the Rubicon suspension really has a negative effect on the towing capacity. My guess is it's the tire size that's the biggest factor, since that will have a direct impact on final gearing. Now I need to go back and find the curb weights for the Sport/S with Max Tow vs the Rubicon.

When I need to tow, can I swap on some smaller tires on a Rubicon and get back to a max tow capability close to 7650?

 

[Tortooga Custom Works]

I am certainly interested in finding out if the Rubicon suspension really has a negative effect on the towing capacity. My guess is it's the tire size that's the biggest factor, since that will have a direct impact on final gearing. Now I need to go back and find the curb weights for the Sport/S with Max Tow vs the Rubicon.

When I need to tow, can I swap on some smaller tires on a Rubicon and get back to a max tow capability close to 7650?

I don't think it's just tires. How different are the tires really? To me the major difference is the weight that the rubicon components add.
Somewhere I remember someone saying that the Rubicon was about 500lbs heavier...

 

[WXman]

The tires have nothing to do with it. I have put a level and tape measure on them, and the Rubicon tires are only 0.25" taller than the Sport tires.

The suspension on Rubicon is a little taller, and a little more flexy. The same thing happened to the Power Wagon. If you look at the payload and towing on the PW you'll see that it's more similar to a 1500 series truck than a 2500 series truck. It's all because of that offroad suspension and because of the added weight from lockers, disconnecting sway bar systems, etc.

What I personally would like to do is get the Rubicon and then add one of the aftermarket load leveling devices to it. The towing capacity is within 650 lbs. of the maximum you can get on Gladiator, which is plenty for me, and the load leveling device would keep the truck level if I put a good amount of weight in the bed despite the soft springs. It doesn't legally alter payload numbers at all, but it will at least keep things level while working with the truck.

That's something that can be done for as little as $200 and it would allow all the performance of the Sport Max Tow while also keeping the offroad goodies of the Rubi.

 

[lrtexasman]

When you configure the Gladiator Rubicon model and look at the specifications , the towing capacity comes out to be 7000 lbs. Is the 7650 lbs available on the Rubicon? The only models that after you configure them that show a 7650 lb. towing capacity are the Gladiator Sport and Sport S.

If you plan to over 7k on a regular basis you are going to be very disappointed with performance. Particularly if you are towing up steep grades or over 65 mph. Highly suggest you move to a half ton if you’re worried about the 650lb difference. This is a lifestyle truck with some towing ability and decent payload.

 

[fourlow78]

The specs found over on another thread in this forum equate to a 350# difference between the Rubicon and the Sport/S with Max Tow. To say the tires have nothing to do with is pretty bold, even if the .25" difference in height is true. Based on the metric tire sizes that are advertised on each model, the tires on the Sport/S are @31.5" tall and the Rubicon tires are @33" tall. Granted those sizes printed on the sides of the tires don't usually equate to a true size, but that's close to 1.5" difference in height alone so the circumference is almost 4.75" greater on the Rubicon's bigger tire. At least on paper. Certainly big enough to make a noticeable difference in the final gear ratio that actually gets to the ground for a relatively small displacement engine.

 

[Blown7]

It does get confusing but all truck makers do the same thing. You will find max tow for the others are never the 4x4 versions. (JT only is offered in 4x4) The highest I saw for the off road version on other manufacturers was 5000 lbs vs. the rubicons 7000 lbs.

You haven't checked the Dodge 1500 specs have you? 4x4 lots more.

 

[Dietruck]

You haven't checked the Dodge 1500 specs have you? 4x4 lots more.

That is a 1/2 ton truck. It is in a different league. That is like me saying a Ram 1500, should out tow a Ram 2500.


Lets compare a Ram 1500 to a big rig too.


Gladiator is not a full size truck.

 

[Tortooga Custom Works]

Curb Weight

Sport: 4,650 lbs
Rubi: 5,050 lbs

400lb difference

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