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wasn't at all my intent to imply the JT not successful, merely that (hopefully) purchase pricing is coming down. Wishful thinking? . . . you bet! ;)
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Gonna be next year before I pull the trigger on one. Busy work season for me, Gobi and Gator not out yet, etc. We shall see what happens in the meantime. Prices could increase, I suppose. My tight azz will decide then!
 

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Gonna be next year before I pull the trigger on one. Busy work season for me, Gobi and Gator not out yet, etc. We shall see what happens in the meantime. Prices could increase, I suppose. My tight azz will decide then!
same boat. I think i just want black though. I feel like everyone has the silver and white. Black at least I could dress up no matter what with another color.
 

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So production numbers doesn't mean actual sold units right? They can produce 100k Gladiators but have 100k sitting on lots. It's still too early to tell, but at the current MSRP the Gladiators are priced little too high and we will see the prices coming down a bit. At least that's what lot of you are hoping for ;)
 

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Freely admit, I'm having a problem with the (perceived) value in the price. I realize the JT really has no peer, but that doesn't mean I'll pay whatever is asked for it. I wouldn't have an issue on pricing if it included a motor with more oomph (and I own a Pentastar and like it, btw). Happy with the motor, just seems lacking in this truck for the price.

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Actually, it’s not this year. FCA’s plan is 100k per year total production, YoY. Also, 16k with supply shortages (steel bumpers, front cameras, etc.) and a first year launch, is very good. Compare to Ford’s Ranger US introduction of a much cheaper platform, the JT is doing just fine.
Not a troll here. But Jeep has way more of a following or loyal just because buyers. I've been following the gladiator for well over a year. Like many others on this forum. The same can nOt be said about the ranger. No one cared it was coming. And most people still dont care about it.. Even hop over to the bronco forums there is way less activity then our forum had prior to gladiator release. The point is there is a huge portion of buyers who have been waiting for a long time for this truck. Artificially increasing the numbers. After we get our sales out of the way. We will see how the rest of the world thinks.
 

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So production numbers doesn't mean actual sold units right? They can produce 100k Gladiators but have 100k sitting on lots. It's still too early to tell, but at the current MSRP the Gladiators are priced little too high and we will see the prices coming down a bit. At least that's what lot of you are hoping for ;)
It's little weird how FCA (and others) dealers work. They actually do make some of the vehicles in a certain number and say to the dealers, in a way: take this many and sell them. It's more a push from FCA and not a pull from the customers. Certainly customer demand affects prices and if they do push too many down the dealers throats they have to discount them. Source: did a project with a dealership.
 

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Well next spring I am hoping to pick up a couple to start an over landing rental company here. I would love to see some Rubicons that could be had for a deal. would gladly take an le and sell off the bits I don't need. really I want a hydro blue rubi though!
 

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Not a troll here. But Jeep has way more of a following or loyal just because buyers. I've been following the gladiator for well over a year. Like many others on this forum. The same can nOt be said about the ranger. No one cared it was coming. And most people still dont care about it.. Even hop over to the bronco forums there is way less activity then our forum had prior to gladiator release. The point is there is a huge portion of buyers who have been waiting for a long time for this truck. Artificially increasing the numbers. After we get our sales out of the way. We will see how the rest of the world thinks.
I would be curious to know how many early adopters of the JT are from the Jeep faithful. I understand a ton on this forum are, but that's a relatively small bubble compared to the 24k units sold. I haven't driven a Jeep since the 90s and loyalty was not my motivating factor.

I live in North Georgia and I'm seeing them more and more often. My neighbor has rented three different Gladiators through Turo to help him determine if he wants one. I was in Knoxville last week and saw four in one day, which is more than I've seen in a day in North Georgia.

I think getting beyond the early adopter crowd and will drive sales, not slow them.

I've also seen more resistance to the JT from the Jeep faithful than the general population as well.

I don't think FCA will struggle to hit 100k units a year, especially as the market softens and discounts become more common, incentives are readily available, and people shopping small trucks realize Jeep is in the game now.
 

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It doesn't help when our local dealers are adding a bunch of overpriced upgrades to Sport S units, making them the asking price of a fully loaded Rubicon. They're selling Rubicon models easily, Sport models not as quickly.

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It doesn't help when our local dealers are adding a bunch of overpriced upgrades to Sport S units, making them the asking price of a fully loaded Rubicon. They're selling Rubicon models easily, Sport models not as quickly.

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I can only dream we would see $Aud figures like that over here.....
 

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Not a troll here. But Jeep has way more of a following or loyal just because buyers. I've been following the gladiator for well over a year. Like many others on this forum. The same can nOt be said about the ranger. No one cared it was coming. And most people still dont care about it.. Even hop over to the bronco forums there is way less activity then our forum had prior to gladiator release. The point is there is a huge portion of buyers who have been waiting for a long time for this truck. Artificially increasing the numbers. After we get our sales out of the way. We will see how the rest of the world thinks.
I agree on the ranger hype being low but the design is pretty much whats been offered to the European market for almost 10 years and the bronco has been teased since oh 2004? I love broncos but i feel ford might screw this one up but i hope not!:fingerscrossed:
 

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It doesn't help when our local dealers are adding a bunch of overpriced upgrades to Sport S units, making them the asking price of a fully loaded Rubicon. They're selling Rubicon models easily, Sport models not as quickly.

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I agree. I look at tons of dealer sites and they never have say aux switch group but almost always have adaptive cruise and/or safety group. I've seen zero manual transmissions and well. I guess they are trying to appeal to a certain upscale market.
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