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[sad85XD]

With your logic if my steering was backwards (left to right) you would be telling me to get over it, and to just turn left when I want to turn right.

But maybe I’m over reacting because this is just Jeep things we all should expect, right?

You won and made your point that you have very, very, low expectations of Jeep, I think we all get that now.

Exactly, being uncomfortable because you cant adjust the temp right and being unable to steer the vehicle are the same thing.

As long as we finally understand each other.

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[danielspivey]

Exactly, being uncomfortable because you cant adjust the temp right and being unable to steer the vehicle are the same thing.

As long as we finally understand each other.

Being able to control the HVAC is pretty important for people who park their Jeeps outside. Or those who live in Canada, or those who live in New Mexico. It’s also pretty important for those who have newborns, elderly or 8 month pregnant wife’s in their Jeeps.

But yes I agree with everything you say, I mean it’s a just a Jeep thing right?

 

[sad85XD]

Being able to control the HVAC is pretty important for people who park their Jeeps outside. Or those who live in Canada, or those who live in New Mexico. It’s also pretty important for those who have newborns, elderly or 8 month pregnant wife’s in their Jeeps.

But yes I agree with everything you say, I mean it’s a just a Jeep thing right?

To be honest no HVAC in existence can keep a pregnant woman comfortable for long.

 

[danielspivey]

To be honest no HVAC in existence can keep a pregnant woman comfortable for long.

This may be the first thing we agree on... lol.

 

[Bowerss2]

Me, clicking on thread with clickbaity title, reading a few posts...

 

[teneck83]

Please read your manual before you spread incorrect info as you did in your above post.

Please refer to page 72 of your manual and it will describe the manual mode in which you INCORRECTLY claim doesn’t exit.

It’s simple, set your temp to desired temp, and it should be that temp. Set your desired blower and it should blow at that speed.

Our vehicles aren't working as described in the manual. This is the point of this thread.

Exactly the purpose and title of this thread. Prospective owners

OK, its coming out that hot, then 1: turn down the fan speed? 2: don't aim it at your hands? change where the air flows? My jeep has the same issue with the HVAC. Sucky HVAC isn't a jeep thing, most cars nowadays have under performing HVAC systems.

So my post about my personal experience with the issue the thread is about doesn't add value, but your post telling me that my post doesn't have value, does....? Cool.


If you really want to compare Jeeps to houses, ok. In my house, the one unit air conditioner doesn't reach one of the rooms in the back real well. Your equivalent is going out on the street on a soap box and yelling about how poor the design is, hoping the architect hears you. While im saying to you, "yea it suck, but maybe just put a fan or two in strategic places"

I agreed with you. The HVAC isn't great. But in MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I had no issue adjusting certain parameters of the controls to gain normal use of the errant system.

This click bait repost war rages every day in all corners of the internet. There was already threads about this. You could have easily added your experience to those. But you want your own thread? Cool, no prob. But then you make a trashy Click bait thread and are confused and defensive when it takes heat.

click bait, no. Did you click and realize that you now have the problem? Now before you bought your gladiator, would you be glad you were informed of HVAC problems ?

People defending a malfunctioning HVAC system is absolutely hilarious.

 

[sad85XD]

Exactly the purpose and title of this thread. Prospective owners


click bait, no. Did you click and realize that you now have the problem? Now before you bought your gladiator, would you be glad you were informed of HVAC problems ?

People defending a malfunctioning HVAC system is absolutely hilarious.

Since when does agreeing with you about the systems short comings mean I'm defending it?

I'm telling you that its still usable with certain strategies. but apparently between the lines I've just been saying "ThE jEeP iS pErFeCt HoW dArE yOu!!!"

 

[Seansmd]

Drove mine early New year's day leaving my house at 5am 40 degrees, put it in manual and set the temp to hi and drive for the first 30-40 minutes, got really hot. Then adjusted the temperature only to 64 and it continued blowing at the same speed and the temperature decreased and within 15 minutes in the range of 64. This was the first time the truck was out of auto mode and operated as I would expect.

 

[danielspivey]

Drove mine early New year's day leaving my house at 5am 40 degrees, put it in manual and set the temp to hi and drive for the first 30-40 minutes, got really hot. Then adjusted the temperature only to 64 and it could boring at the same speed and the temperature decreased and within 15 minutes in the range of 64. This was the first time the truck was out of auto mode and operated as I would expect.

So are you saying that in manual mode it took 15 minutes for the temperature to get cool after having it on hi temperature? It should be less than 10 seconds for it to start getting cool. If it took 15 minutes something is wrong with yours as well.

 

[Seansmd]

So are you saying that in manual mode it took 15 minutes for the temperature to get cool after having it on hi temperature? It should be less than 10 seconds for it to start getting cool. If it took 15 minutes something is wrong with yours as well.

That is not my expectation since it is in manual mode, and I only lowered the temp(did not turn on ac), the hvac is still recycling hot air inside the vehicle. I expect it to turn off the thermostat and stop pumping hot air but not actively cooling. The system passively cooled down until the thermostat is tripped again.

In auto mode I would expect very quickly for the fans to go to high, turn on the ac, and pump cool air Base on the delta.

 

[danielspivey]

I think part of the issue is some users’ expectation of how the HVAC should work, vs how it actually works.
Expecting a heater system to continue to blow hot air at the pre set temp, when the cabin is heated to that temp is not how most systems work. They blow hot air, temp of which depends on current outside and inside conditions, as the cabin reaches the preset temp, the air is cooled to match. If the temp increases past the preset temp, then cool air is blown in to get the cabin temp back to its setting.

This is how most house systems work, and seems to be the way the JT works. I would not want a system to continues to blow in hot air, once my temp setting on reached, which is how cars worked in the 20th century’s hated it then, do not want it now. The system in my JT works as described in the manual. If yours does not, then take it in to get fixed!
Cheers

Your above statement is true in auto mode, but NOT in manual mode. In auto mode, per the manual, the “system automatically adjusts the temperature, mode (floor vented defrosts etc) and blower speed to provide comfort as quickly as possible”.

On manual mode, The temperature, mode, and blower speed should all stay at what you set them to. Manual mode.... is manual. Settings should NOT vary.

I have attached a snip from my actual manual which is on page 38.

 

[mr_bots]

Once again, there is no full "Manual Mode" the temperature is always operating automatically. Looking at your garage, go try it out on the listed Civic or CR-V. My 18 CR-V behaves the same as the Jeep. Set it to 72 in "Manual Mode" and it's cold in the cabin it'll run warm until it gets close to 72 then cools it off as it gets close to ~72, it just won't touch fan speed or mode. It's dumb and they should just drop the temperature numbers and go to a slider when it's not in auto since it's a programmable LCD screen but it seems to be the industry standard.

 

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[ShadowsPapa]

I think part of the issue is some users’ expectation of how the HVAC should work, vs how it actually works.
Expecting a heater system to continue to blow hot air at the pre set temp, when the cabin is heated to that temp is not how most systems work. They blow hot air, temp of which depends on current outside and inside conditions, as the cabin reaches the preset temp, the air is cooled to match. If the temp increases past the preset temp, then cool air is blown in to get the cabin temp back to its setting.

This is how most house systems work, and seems to be the way the JT works. I would not want a system to continues to blow in hot air, once my temp setting on reached, which is how cars worked in the 20th century’s hated it then, do not want it now. The system in my JT works as described in the manual. If yours does not, then take it in to get fixed!
Cheers

Just a bit on heating and cooling - not any side, this side or that side or otherwise, just a bit -
When it's 10 degrees out, and you set the temp to be 70 degrees, The HVAC system will have to blow in air warmer than 70 degrees to get to 70. Pretty basic like any system, home or otherwise. The cabin isn't super insulated. You lose heat through air leaks/air infiltration, through conducting it out via the metal shell, the glass and so on. It's heat loss. Once you get to 70 inside, if all it does is blow in 70 degree air, it will lose ground because the outside temp is constantly fighting it - you are losing BTUs of heat out the glass, air infiltration both ways - in and out, and other means.
So to get to 70 it's going to have to blow in air a lot warmer than 70. Once it gets to 70 - the outside hasn't given up taking heat away. The infiltration hasn't stopped, the conduction through the glass and steel and aluminum and fiberglass hasn't stopped. To maintain 70 with the constant loss of BTUs, you have to put in BTUs at least equal to what's being lost. That means you can't simply pump in 70 degree air to maintain that temp of 70 unless you pump in huge volumes of it.

That's not saying anyone here doesn't have an HVAC issue, that's not saying they do. It's just adding something maybe not being thought about as some seem to be thinking of the JT cabin as a well-insulated, sealed container that once it reaches temp, that's that. Just blow in 70 degree air and it will stay fine.

Hey, where's the sensors for these things?
Are people using the recirculation setting or using outside air (I always use outside air, have never used recirculate setting on any car that I can remember owning)
Are they turning the dash ducts away or at themselves? Using floor/feet heat as my wife calls it, or a mix of "high and low" like some systems call it?

 

[Troybilt]

At what point do I start killing kittens?

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