Official Reveal: Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 V8 Hemi

[DaveNH]

More detail about the nature of the $9500 option claim:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...wrangler-officially-teased.61272/post-1311495

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[DunnMan]

I don't get the point of the 392 in a Gladiator...seems to me the 5.7L would be a much better fit for MOST people, plus cheaper. Much better power than the 3.6, probably the same or slightly better mileage. The 392 (6.4) has more power but is also heavier and much more thirsty.

 

[kdfhuey]

Id hate to see the price on this.

Agreed, I’m assuming this is going to be another $3k-5k option. Gladiators selling for $65k wouldn’t be unheard of with this option

 

[DaveNH]

I'm somewhat skeptical that the Gladiator will get the Hemi, unless and until there's a competitor with a more powerful engine option.

It may take a Raptor Ranger coming sooner than later, or the alleged Bronco pickup, with the 2.7l ecoboost.

Wrangler had the prospect of facing down the Bronco with the 2.7. Until the I6 is ready, it makes sense to stuff in the Hemi.

Though I wonder if the I6 is ultimately a Gladiator option. Given that the 2.0 isn't an option, one would think the I6 has no shot.

The I6 is said to only be 3" longer than the Tigershark 4 banger, but if cooling is an issue on the 2.0, it will be a problem with 2 more cylinders.

Unless, of course, the cooling excuse was just that.

 

[Bonanza]

I'm somewhat skeptical that the Gladiator will get the Hemi, unless and until there's a competitor with a more powerful engine option.

It may take a Raptor Ranger coming sooner than later, or the alleged Bronco pickup, with the 2.7l ecoboost.

Wrangler had the prospect of facing down the Bronco with the 2.7. Until the I6 is ready, it makes sense to stuff in the Hemi.

Though I wonder if the I6 is ultimately a Gladiator option. Given that the 2.0 isn't an option, one would think the I6 has no shot.

The I6 is said to only be 3" lone than the Tigershark 4 banger, but if cooling is an issue on the 2.0, it will be a problem with 2 more cylinders.

Unless, of course, the cooling excuse was just that.

It will. ICE engines are on their way out; I suspect we will never see an I6 in the gladiator. This engine allows for a sales-draw mid cycle release on the gladiator. The front ends are the same as the JL so it would be a waste of engineering R&D not to release it. I suspect this will tie into the "Hercules" version that was rumored years ago. Gladiator is a HUGE profit margin, and this engine continues the trend. If you can mark up the price 9k with no significant cost increase on their end, why not?

 

[snide]

No freaking way they’re $90k....where are y’all getting that info? Pure speculation? Random guesses? Is there a source to back that up? Custom jobs going for $120k are one-offs that are not accurate barometers for a factory price.

I’d guess starting at $60k...no one in their right mind would buy a midsized truck at $90k. That price makes absolutely no sense, especially given a completely loaded Raptor barely gets there.

I agree that they won't be as much as $90k. Will they sell at $90k? Yeah, a few. Priced at $60k, they'll sell a lot more of them.

What's the price difference between a Challenger Scat Pack (392) and Challenger GT? The price difference isn't much more than $10k. I can't see a 392 JL or JT being more than $10k more than a similarly equipped V6 model.

 

[DaveNH]

The front ends are the same as the JL so it would be a waste of engineering R&D not to release it.

Right, but the same is true of the 2.0. But Jeep said that there were cooling issues when doing truck stuff. It's also why the diesel has a lower tow rating.

I certainly wouldn't put a money grab being out of the question. But Jeep has taken pains to emphasize that the Gladiator is a truck.

So, yeah, the Hemi will certainly fit. But it could've fit the Wrangler years ago, and they didn't bother until competition came along with a more powerful engine option.

May come down to siding whether it's worth the potential CAFE hit when the Gladiator doesn't have looming competition like the Wrangler.

 

[PyrPatriot]

More detail about the nature of the $9500 option claim:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...wrangler-officially-teased.61272/post-1311495

This. If it's only an option for the Rubicon/Mojave which are already $10-15k more than the Sport S then we're talking a $20-25k increase from a Sport S, and a $70k Factory JT.

 

[Stoney126]

I don't get the point of the 392 in a Gladiator...seems to me the 5.7L would be a much better fit for MOST people, plus cheaper. Much better power than the 3.6, probably the same or slightly better mileage. The 392 (6.4) has more power but is also heavier and much more thirsty.

I think the 392 is awesome but I'd like to see the 5.7 option as well.

 

[Klutch]

This. If it's only an option for the Rubicon/Mojave which are already $10-15k more than the Sport S then we're talking a $20-25k increase from a Sport S, and a $70k Factory JT.

And if you wait for a used V8 Jeep, you'll pay $3,000 below new MSRP with 250,000 miles on it. (That's the way it is in Colorado Springs, anyway. I saw a story on the local news last week that said the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited had the lowest depreciation of ANY vehicle! The Jeep Wrangler 2-door was second and I think the Toyota Tacoma was third).

 

[it_trailblzr]

I think the 392 is a great idea, but if stock H.P. is in the 400+ range, then I say get a Magnuson and have 440 H.P. for $6500 + installation.

 

[shrinkhead]

I think the 392 is a great idea, but if stock H.P. is in the 400+ range, then I say get a Magnuson and have 440 H.P. for $6500 + installation.

Unfortunately that's 440HP at 6500 RMP or so with zero benefit below 2500RPM and modest below 4500. These forced induction solutions are great for flooring it but you also can't really keep the engine in boost at like 5PSI towing up a hill without risking some damage. I had the Procharger on my Mustang....

 

[DocMike]

Mojave Hellcat..... Then leave it in a room with Hennessy put on some Percy Sledge and let nature take its course.

I haven’t even taken delivery of my Mojave and Im already planning my trade in. Ugh. If the Mojave gets this engine....oh muh gawd...

 

[Solidaxle]

The same people that said they would never make a V-8 wrangler are now saying it will be over 100,000. Don’t believe the hype. LOL. It will be at affordable

 

[MrKnowitall]

Yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if the towing was less. Another thing is the v6, although it struggles with torque, doesn’t get bad gas mileage towing a 6400lb trailer. Will the v8 tow more comfortably but get worse gas mileage? I can always regear the axles to add torque to the v6.

But then again, it’s a v8 hemi...yum

We have a winner! Or is that whiner?

If they offered that in the Gladiator I would almost certainly buy one. But the odds of them offering this engine in the Gladiator are extremely low due to usage case and engineering reasons.

If they can't make the 2.0 turbo gas engine work due to cooling concerns then what makes you think they'll be able to shoehorn a V8 in there and keep it cool?

Oh, and the 392 is a standard run off the mill engine. Nothing fancy about it. This isn't a TRX. No WAY it'll be $90k. $60k tops and maybe lower than that.

This!
The 392 doesn’t cost much more to build than a vanilla 5.7 Hemi. 392 cars use the same 8hp75, too. Only the Hellcat uses the 8hp90. If the driveline holds the torque from the ecodiesel , it’ll hold the 392. That’s not to say they won’t employ torque management in low range and even 1st gear.

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